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Jake! 
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 04:27 PM |
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Abortion? Right Or Wrong! {My Longest Ever Topic On TiBB} [DEBATE FINISHED]
Are You
For Or Against
Abortion
And If So Why?
I believe that its is wrong and have many valid reasonsas to why, but I want to here yours...
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Tom
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 04:32 PM |
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Strongly against.
I don't believe in killing someone just because they are an inconvenience to you.
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supernoodles! 
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 04:38 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tom
Strongly against.
I don't believe in killing someone just because they are an inconvenience to you. |
couldn`t have said it better
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Jake!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 04:46 PM |
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There are many reasons why I disgaree...
1. There are many contreceptions to stop being put in that position. Use hem, not a waste of life...
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:01 PM |
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i mainly disagree with it due to a documentary i watched when i was about 13,in it it showed the abortion procedure and the actual aborted feotus
(sp?).I was absolutly disgusted,take a look at the rate of development and then take a look at the length of time within pregnancy that it remains
totally legal for a woman to terminate her child.
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Jake!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:03 PM |
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Yep I saw something of the same theres a video on youtube which i might post. Because you can still have an abortion up 6 months.
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TheMichaelO
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:05 PM |
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I am against it as I think it is murder.
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pinkmichk
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:05 PM |
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i am against it its not just a bunch of cells its a little human being plus i hate how its being used as a contraception if your not old enough or in
a right place to have a baby either use contraception or keep your legs shut
some people say its ok in cases ike rape etc but again i disagree on this too giving a baby up for adoption to a family who say cant have children etc
has to be better than getting rid of it
just my views on it
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pinkmichk
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:07 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JustJake
Yep I saw something of the same theres a video on youtube which i might post. Because you can still have an abortion up 6 months.
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its 24 or 25 weeks i think currently which is wrong my friends baby was born at 27 weeks and is now a thriving 4 year old
please do not post the videos if people really want to see them they can find them themselves but they are very disturbing
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:09 PM |
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yep,if a baby is old enough to be born and survive then if aborted it is murder in my eyes.At 5 and 6 months a baby can weigh almost 2lb`s,it can
grasp at the umbillical cord,it can dream,hiccup,has functioning oil and sweat glands,can suck its thumb and can feel pain.
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Tom
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:10 PM |
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I used to be for it but then when I knew how complex it actually was I went against it, and a few babies have been born around me (not mine  ) lately and the thought of any of them getting rid of them is quite sad
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but I'm for it being legal because its going to happen anyway, so I'd rather people did it safely instead of the woman over the road sticking some
disinfectant up there which could do anything to the mum as well
I just wish people wouldn't use it as a contraceptive device and there should definitely be tighter regulations like a lower limit (its atm 24 weeks,
putting it into perspective a girl who I went to college with was born at 23 weeks and they were going to count her as a miscarriage, but instead put
her on life support etc and grew up perfectly healthy/normal) and I think there should be limits as well as to how many you can have in a set period
of time.
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:10 PM |
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its 24 weeks in uk but i think its lower in other parts of europe not sure
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Dezzy
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:10 PM |
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I'm pro choice, I believe it's up to the individual if they want to do it or not.
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Annie
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:17 PM |
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I am for abortion -
I think that it is completely upto the person whether they would like to have a baby or not. Mistakes happen, no contraception is 100% effective and
things can go wrong.
If you get pregnant through being silly then why should you spend the rest of your life regretting that decision. Obviously I know once you have the
baby, you will completely love it and not regret it all. But there will always be thoughts in your mind like what would my life be like now etc.
I know people who have gone through abortions and its not a nice thing to do and the way that they do it can put you off it alone but sometimes its
just necessary.
I think it shouldnt just be a spir of the moment thing and the woman will need to think about all different pros and cons to why they are doing it.
Also think about rape victims to get pregnant - how would you like to keep a child that has been a result of a terrible moment of your life?
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:18 PM |
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If i was raped though i would just take the morning after pill
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Annie
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:19 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by supernoodles!
If i was raped though i would just take the morning after pill |
Not always effective
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Jake!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:20 PM |
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For all them reasons there is an explanation agaist...
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Jake!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:20 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Annie
| Quote: | Originally posted by supernoodles!
If i was raped though i would just take the morning after pill |
Not always effective |
Only if you throw up is when its in effective...
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:22 PM |
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theres about a ten percent chance of it being ineffective
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Tom
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:23 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Annie
I am for abortion -
I think that it is completely upto the person whether they would like to have a baby or not. Mistakes happen, no contraception is 100% effective and
things can go wrong. |
The pill and condoms are both 98% effective- its not down to one side. If you're really trying to avoid it and would get rid of the baby if it
happened, then both use it and the chances are slashed from 0.02 to 0.0004 which is practically no chance of it happening, and if it does then you're
extremely unlucky. You should also be prepared when having sex, you can't just think "oh I'm using contraception it won't happen", if you do
you're not mentally ready.
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you get pregnant through being silly then why should you spend the rest of your life regretting that decision. Obviously I know once you have the
baby, you will completely love it and not regret it all. But there will always be thoughts in your mind like what would my life be like now
etc. |
People do other silly things and it affects them for the rest of their life, why should this be any different just because you can do something (evil)
about it?
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know people who have gone through abortions and its not a nice thing to do and the way that they do it can put you off it alone but sometimes its just
necessary.
I think it shouldnt just be a spir of the moment thing and the woman will need to think about all different pros and cons to why they are doing
it. |
Or just not do it at all if its that bad.
| Quote: | | Also think about rape victims to get pregnant - how would you like to keep a child that has been a result of a terrible moment
of your life? |
If they don't want it and don't feel any attachment to it then give it away. There are loads of couples out there who would love to have a baby but
can't. Give your unwanted baby away- everyones a winner.
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Annie
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by supernoodles!
theres about a ten percent chance of it being ineffective |
It decreases every hour that you leave it after being raped.
Its only 90% effective in the first 12 hours.
And then there is still a 10% chance of having a baby of someone who raped you.
And when you have just been raped - pregnancy is the LAST thing you are thinking about btw.
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pinkmichk
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:27 PM |
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i dont agree with the morning after pill either to me its in the same bracket as abortion again just my view
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Ruth
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:27 PM |
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I am pro-choice.
Just a few reasons:
*Abortion rates in countries where abortion is illegal are much the same as abortion rates in countries where it is legal. Outlawing abortion would
simply push it underground. Illegal abortions carry a much higher risk to both the mother and the foetus. Are the 'pro-lifers' prepared to
take responsibility for that?
*People say that females who get pregnant should take responsibility for their mistakes. If a female finds herself pregnant by accident, and decides
to have an abortion rather than bringing an unwanted baby into the world, she is taking responsibility. She has made the responsible choice
not to potentially ruin two lives.
*Pro-lifers frequently suggest ' adoption not abortion'. However, our care system is already stretched to bursting, and most children eligible for
adoption have no chance whatsoever of being adopted. Are the pro-lifers willing to adopt every single unwanted child? That's what I
thought.
*Is it fair to say that rape victims who become pregnant should be forced to carry a baby through to full term (whether or not they keep it after it
has been born is another matter). Having been violated once, should a woman be forced to do something else against her will?
JustJake, why don't you post your reasons for your beliefs?
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supernoodles!
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:28 PM |
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I dunno it would be pretty high up there if it was me personally,Im on the pill anyway so obviously theres not much chance of me getting pregnant if i
was raped
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Ruth
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| posted on 15-10-2008 at 05:33 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tom
People do other silly things and it affects them for the rest of their life, why should this be any different just because you can do something (evil)
about it?
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know people who have gone through abortions and its not a nice thing to do and the way that they do it can put you off it alone but sometimes its just
necessary.
I think it shouldnt just be a spir of the moment thing and the woman will need to think about all different pros and cons to why they are doing
it. |
Or just not do it at all if its that bad.
| Quote: | | Also think about rape victims to get pregnant - how would you like to keep a child that has been a result of a terrible moment
of your life? |
If they don't want it and don't feel any attachment to it then give it away. There are loads of couples out there who would love to have a baby but
can't. Give your unwanted baby away- everyones a winner. |
Good grief Tom, listen to yourself! Do you not think that the decision to have an abortion won't affect a woman for the rest of her life?
Of course it will.
And yes, a woman should think long and hard before having an abortion, or having a baby. Bearing in mind that you yourself will never be in the
position of having to have an abortion - do you think that having a baby that you don't want/are unable or unwilling to care for is not also "that
bad."
Everyone's a winner? For crying out loud. Take a look at the statistics before you start bandying phrases like that around. Most children who
are eligible for adoption have no chance of being adopted - are you prepared to look after them yourself? If the answer is no, then that line of
argument is completely ridiculous. Regarding a rape victim - after a woman has already had her body violated, do you really think it's acceptable
for her to have her body violated again by forcing her into a pregnancy that she does not want, and was not able to prevent?
I will again raise the point about abortion rates being much the same in countries where it is illegal as in countries where it is legal. It is just
that abortions carried out in those countries are illegal abortions, with more danger to the foetus and the mother.
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