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Old 17-01-2007, 06:57 AM #1
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But as Jade's former Cyber Devil's Advocate on BB3, I have now heard what has been transpiring.

Can I ask what short memories people have?

Is Jade acting any more different from when under the influence of Adele?

Remember them ganging up on Sophie?

Is this more this type of behaviour when Jade is subtly lead by another party.
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She's the ringleader now. Though I don't remember Adele bullying Sophie?
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Adele prompted Jade and used her as a weapon, whilst she hid in the shadows and let Jade take the flack.

It was quite clever really even if it was dispicable, hence the record vote to evict.
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OK

I got back in and saw the last 25 minutes of this, having been recalled by some obscure contract clause toact as Jade's cyber devil's advocate once more.

(I don't pick these assignments, we get handed them under the taxi rank rule)

Hmmmmm

[img=100x100]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Rumpole-Of-The-Bailey-Photograph-C12118320.jpeg[/img]

This is a classic personality clash with class warfare thrown in. I could not detect any racism on the part of Jade. There is a suspicion that the "racism" comments in the media are being made by certain groups with their own agendas here. You must put all such media contamination from your minds and focus oin the facts of this case only.

You need to remember how Jade was in BB3 with others, like Sophie and Johny and afterwards Kate. This is her nature to be confrontaional, which is unfortunate. I have yet to see credible evidence for the crime of "Inciting Racial Hatred", a serious criminal offence.

This idea may have been planted by her mother, is being of an older generation is not as enlightened as would be preferred.

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

I submit to this court, that whilst my client has been unpleasant to Miss Shetty and has argued with her in a heated manner, she has not commited the criminal offence of Incitement To Racial Hatred. I submit to this court that any racism involved here seems to be more in the minds of the editors of the tawdry tabloids that are not much use except for lining the cage of a budgie with cateracts.
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I got back in and saw the last 25 minutes of this, having been recalled by some obscure contract clause toact as Jade's cyber devil's advocate once more.

(I don't pick these assignments, we get handed them under the taxi rank rule)

Hmmmmm

[img=100x100]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Rumpole-Of-The-Bailey-Photograph-C12118320.jpeg[/img]

This is a classic personality clash with class warfare thrown in. I could not detect any racism on the part of Jade. There is a suspicion that the "racism" comments in the media are being made by certain groups with their own agendas here. You must put all such media contamination from your minds and focus oin the facts of this case only.

You need to remember how Jade was in BB3 with others, like Sophie and Johny and afterwards Kate. This is her nature to be confrontaional, which is unfortunate. I have yet to see credible evidence for the crime of "Inciting Racial Hatred", a serious criminal offence.

This idea may have been planted by her mother, is being of an older generation is not as enlightened as would be preferred.

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

I submit to this court, that whilst my client has been unpleasant to Miss Shetty and has argued with her in a heated manner, she has not commited the criminal offence of Incitement To Racial Hatred. I submit to this court that any racism involved here seems to be more in the minds of the editors of the tawdry tabloids that are not much use except for lining the cage of a budgie with cateracts.
the jury finds the defendent guilty your honour........
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racism sticks, dont comment on what you dont know
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i love the fact how inspite of daily events people have the audacity to defend these people.

'its our upbringing' is the next excuse from people who say 'bloody foreigners nicking our jobs' if you removed foreigners from the equation.

but of course some white people will vehemently deny racism and defend jade, but then if they don't who will? hopefully most white people will see this without trying to justify behaviours and they will be the majority.
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racism sticks, dont comment on what you dont know
In my family background we have multi culturalism, and I belong to a church where we have representations from all of the main continents except Antartica. (They would not let me import the Emporer Penguin)

I have shared flats with people from different parts of the world and have got on them with greatest of equinimity. I am thoroughly aware of how racism works on the mob and the subconcious level.

Oh and sildenafil, even the most dispicable rogue is entitled in our legal system to representation for their day in court. Maybe we could retire to Pomeroys after Chambers to discuss the quirkiness of this part of English jurisprudence.
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But as Jade's former Cyber Devil's Advocate on BB3, I have now heard what has been transpiring.

Can I ask what short memories people have?

Is Jade acting any more different from when under the influence of Adele?

Remember them ganging up on Sophie?

Is this more this type of behaviour when Jade is subtly lead by another party.
I agree...... but looks like its caught up with her now
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Jade could probably be cleared of racism in a court of law. Theres very little SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE against her to say she is being racist. But we all know that the British Justice system is not justified.

It is as clear as day to anyone who has the balls to use their common sense, that these problems in the Big Brother house cannot be pin-pointed as being one singular example of discrimination, but discrimination in all its forms. This group, in particular Jade, Jackey and Danielle are so far beyond logic and understanding that even if they called Shilpa a 'black b*****d' people would come to their defence and use some sort of argument of semantics to try and get them off the hook.

My point is, the discrimination is in full flow. It is there for everyone to see, and this forum proves that even the most obscene comments can be defended with the use of some sort of loophole in the English language or playing on peoples empathy or even sympathy, but at the end of the day, there comes a time when people need to stand up in the name of good taste, dignity, manners, morals and civilised society as we know it and say...HOLD ON A SECOND, YOUR BEHAVIOUR IS UNACCEPTABLE.
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I think people have a lack or respect on this forum, sticks has a valid point. And at the end of the day, there is no need for the personal slurs, he doesn't comment on BB, and thats why...because of Admin deleted that.

Bring back the days of 2005.
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If it's any concelation, I've always hated Jade, but now I just hate her more.
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We have now had a statement from Miss Shetty, confirming that my client has not been guilty of any racism. (See this link)

I put it to you that this clamour of racism, is a mear phantom that has been made up by the gutter press. This mear phantom has now become a jugganauting bandwagon, upon which many are trying to score "Brownie points" by jumping firmly upon, at my client's expense and those of her co-defendants.

It is the golden thread running through British Justice that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, and there has been no evidence against my client of any racism, even by the alleged victim. To prove someone guilty we need actual hard evidence, you can not find a persion guilty by innuendo and mass hysteria.

A few centuries ago across the pond, the cry went up, Witch, witch. To be accused of witchcraft was considered proof of guilt, and many went to the gallows. Not a single shred of evidence was ever found of witch craft.

In the 20th century, across the pond the cry went up about reds under the bed. And at the House investigation into Un-American Activities Many a career was wrecked, but not a shred of evidence of communist activity was ever found.

Do we really want to go down such a route? Already we have councils who are banning the words "Merry Christmas" for fear of causing offence.

My client is no angel, that is not disputed. Whether my client is a bully, that is yet to be proved in the next possible trial. But one thing we can be certain of, is that my client is not and has never been a racist.
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OK

I got back in and saw the last 25 minutes of this, having been recalled by some obscure contract clause toact as Jade's cyber devil's advocate once more.

(I don't pick these assignments, we get handed them under the taxi rank rule)

Hmmmmm

[img=100x100]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Rumpole-Of-The-Bailey-Photograph-C12118320.jpeg[/img]

This is a classic personality clash with class warfare thrown in. I could not detect any racism on the part of Jade. There is a suspicion that the "racism" comments in the media are being made by certain groups with their own agendas here. You must put all such media contamination from your minds and focus oin the facts of this case only.

You need to remember how Jade was in BB3 with others, like Sophie and Johny and afterwards Kate. This is her nature to be confrontaional, which is unfortunate. I have yet to see credible evidence for the crime of "Inciting Racial Hatred", a serious criminal offence.

This idea may have been planted by her mother, is being of an older generation is not as enlightened as would be preferred.

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

I submit to this court, that whilst my client has been unpleasant to Miss Shetty and has argued with her in a heated manner, she has not commited the criminal offence of Incitement To Racial Hatred. I submit to this court that any racism involved here seems to be more in the minds of the editors of the tawdry tabloids that are not much use except for lining the cage of a budgie with cateracts.
I agree Sticks.

It seems oin issues like this people let the tabloids do the thinking for them rather than looking at it all objectionably and arriving at a logical conclusion, and its our media lets not forget who've created this hysteria and race row in the first place.

The problem is that racism is not clearly defined in the dictionary and because of the ambiguity in a lot of what Jade and co have said to Shilpa people have jumped the gun and assumed its racist.

What should have been the correct course of action was to wait until Jade, Jo etc had left the house and then asked them one by one what they meant by the remarks. As it is we've cast aspersions on these people as vile and ignorant as they are which in a democracy that prides itself on freedom of speech is deplorable. Now they're forever going to be seen as racist.

Nice to see you back Sticks. I hope you post more on the current series.
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I was kind of drafted into this, but ironically I have a 24 hour pass for tomorrow for other things going on. For one there will be Any Questions on BBC Radio 4 between 20:00 and 20:50 I may have to listen and fire off a submission to Any Answers.

By the looks of things, unless certain twisted individuals have programmed umpteen phones a certain way, Jade will be out tomorrow.

The irony is, BB3 made her and CBB has destroyed her. Had I been around to give council when C4 approached her I would have advised my client to instruct C4 to take a 5 mile walk off of a pier that is 100 yards long, but then would she have heeded my wise council.
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Someone should have been there to tell her going in was a bad idea but I suppose hindsight is 20-20.

Maybe it was better the truth about Jade came out? I never liked her (although never condemned her as a racist). She's had her 15 minutes and then some...

And it's sparked a national debate about the issues that have arisen in the house.

(Sticks, you were needed earlier! Disparaging comments were about your previous/current clients, McDonalds! )
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told u all along..
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OK

I got back in and saw the last 25 minutes of this, having been recalled by some obscure contract clause toact as Jade's cyber devil's advocate once more.

(I don't pick these assignments, we get handed them under the taxi rank rule)

Hmmmmm

[img=100x100]http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Rumpole-Of-The-Bailey-Photograph-C12118320.jpeg[/img]

This is a classic personality clash with class warfare thrown in. I could not detect any racism on the part of Jade. There is a suspicion that the "racism" comments in the media are being made by certain groups with their own agendas here. You must put all such media contamination from your minds and focus oin the facts of this case only.

You need to remember how Jade was in BB3 with others, like Sophie and Johny and afterwards Kate. This is her nature to be confrontaional, which is unfortunate. I have yet to see credible evidence for the crime of "Inciting Racial Hatred", a serious criminal offence.

This idea may have been planted by her mother, is being of an older generation is not as enlightened as would be preferred.

Now I know that this is outside of my brief, but even the "eff of home" jibe by Danielle has been made to be something it is not. It has been made to seem racist, or at least interpreted that way. When someone irritates you and provokes you, whether they are black, white, green or indigo with yellow polkadot spots, you want them to go away. You will want them to "go home". This is such an instinctive reaction, that not even Danielle recalled ever uttering the expression.

I submit to this court, that whilst my client has been unpleasant to Miss Shetty and has argued with her in a heated manner, she has not commited the criminal offence of Incitement To Racial Hatred. I submit to this court that any racism involved here seems to be more in the minds of the editors of the tawdry tabloids that are not much use except for lining the cage of a budgie with cateracts.

do you wanna now defend jo and jade and jackey for the past week. **** off home is whats been said to black people and other minorities, especially by racist BNPs, from the past
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shilpa has said it isnt

told u all along..
Shilpa hasnt heard the racist comments that we've heard.
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Jade could probably be cleared of racism in a court of law. Theres very little SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE against her to say she is being racist. But we all know that the British Justice system is not justified.

It is as clear as day to anyone who has the balls to use their common sense, that these problems in the Big Brother house cannot be pin-pointed as being one singular example of discrimination, but discrimination in all its forms. This group, in particular Jade, Jackey and Danielle are so far beyond logic and understanding that even if they called Shilpa a 'black b*****d' people would come to their defence and use some sort of argument of semantics to try and get them off the hook.

My point is, the discrimination is in full flow. It is there for everyone to see, and this forum proves that even the most obscene comments can be defended with the use of some sort of loophole in the English language or playing on peoples empathy or even sympathy, but at the end of the day, there comes a time when people need to stand up in the name of good taste, dignity, manners, morals and civilised society as we know it and say...HOLD ON A SECOND, YOUR BEHAVIOUR IS UNACCEPTABLE.

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Even Dermot has pointed out that nothing of a racial nature has come from Jade
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Even Dermot has pointed out that nothing of a racial nature has come from Jade
Dermot ( along with Davina and Russel ) is the LAST person you should look to get an honest and accurate appraisal of Jade.

Dermot, Davina and Russel are signed to the same management company as Jade.

This makes the loyalties quite incestuous.


Anyway, sod the racism!! The way the pig Jade has acted this week is bad enough without any racism coming into it.
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Anyway, sod the racism!! The way the pig Jade has acted this week is bad enough without any racism coming into it.
That is another argument, my brief on my recall has been to conduct the defence against the charge of incitement to commit racial hatred
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