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Old 18-06-2007, 11:33 PM #26
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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
That's fair enough but maybe they just find the thought of Seany and Gerry kissing ''disscusting'' just as they would say Nicky and Liam kissing and not the fact that it's two men
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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
That's fair enough but maybe they just find the thought of Seany and Gerry kissing ''disscusting'' just as they would say Nicky and Liam kissing and not the fact that it's two men
It definatly wasnt in that context,tho,it was clear that what was disgusting was it was two men.
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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
When I said the average joe I meant hetrosexuals. I'd like to think of myself as a human being and I dont find those phrases offensive in the slightest, slightly disrespectful yes but offensive? no.

Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
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Nodish,I feel that somthing like words being misused is just ignorance or unintelligence.

It is 100% ok in my oppinion to call a gay man "gay" and a gay woman a "Lesbian" its words like "F*g" or "pansy"I have a problem with


But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Well Psylocke, I am a straight guy, but I am a member of Gerry's fanclub on here & personally have no problem with Gay people whatsoever.

I know quite a few & that never bothers me.

I agree that words like "F*g & "p*nsy" are unacceptable and I would never use them words, but sadly that will happen, even on here from time-to-time. That is when it should be dealt with, but perhaps a firm word in a U2U from a moderator and after that is done, if they do it again, then a warning should be issued.

I watched Gerry & Seany kissing and once again, I have no problem with that. But do you know something Psylocke, some people will actually phone up and complain about that.

I remember once, when there was a storyline in Eastenders, where two men were kissing & they received loads of complaints.

Well, what I say, is, "Tough for them".

Gay people exist & it is part of our society and if people cannot accept that, then it is "them" that have the problem.

Not Gay people.....






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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
That's fair enough but maybe they just find the thought of Seany and Gerry kissing ''disscusting'' just as they would say Nicky and Liam kissing and not the fact that it's two men
It definatly wasnt in that context,tho,it was clear that what was disgusting was it was two men.
Could you make a link to the post in matter?
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I honestly have read some of these 'homophobic' posts and saw nothing offensive.
The most 'offensive' one was 'I knew those gays would cause trouble'.
I hardly think this is offensive compared to the homophobia that exists in this world.
I have gay friends and have no problem with homosexuality. It's peoples choices but IMO nothing has offended me.
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But Its things like people going "Ewww disgusting" or "Yuck thats sick" when somone mentioned Gerry and Seany kissing,things like that are very offensive,more offensive than misuse of words in my oppinion.
Why is that very offensive I dont get it? I can kinda understand a gay person being slightly peeved off if someone reacted like that in the street after a quick snog, but how/why would that offend the average joe?
Because it is offensive to another human being,Its like saying YOU make me sick.
Ziggy and Chanelle get a completely different reaction.

Gay men and women are average joes,its just they fancy different sexes
Although directly it isnt really my business I dont dont like to see people being attacked for no reason at all.

I am going to sticking my neck out here a bit though when I say Im not sure what I think of seeing two men kissing.

There is no reason at all why two men shouldnt show their feelings in public just the same as anyone else but because I personally dont see other men as being remotely sexual my reaction is a bit like "Ewww, that isnt for me" just as it can be with other sexual things I dont personally 100% relate with.

Ofcourse there is no reason why anyone needs to watch something if they feel uncomfortable (when Laura saw Ziggy and Channelle kissing she walked away, though she did say "disgusting" which seems equally offensive really) and in the end of the day its an issue with the person looking not the two kissing.

I hope I havnt offended you in any way I just wanted to point out that maybe someone saying "yuck" is saying it because it isnt for them rather then because they hate gay people. I do agree though it does come over as being offensive.
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That's fair enough but maybe they just find the thought of Seany and Gerry kissing ''disscusting'' just as they would say Nicky and Liam kissing and not the fact that it's two men

Well in that case I think members should explain themselves better when posting to avoid any such complications on sensitive matters. I read that "Ewww" post as being homophobic.
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And the "homophobic post of the week" award goes to..............

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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
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I did not see that and I am shocked. So if gay people kiss then it's not natural? If people are not accustomed to it, as many gay people have had to remain in private due to homophobia, then it is foreign and unatural? Actually, I am not shocked, but disgusted. Some members need to think about things more and open their minds.
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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
Sorry again I dont feel this means xXEtchieXx hates homosexuals but rather perhaps used a word that can be taken as offensive. Sadly people do sometimes react negatively to things they arnt used to and are "foreign" and for people who do not know many or any gay people this may be a problem.

As for natural, what makes it good or bad? Technically one could argue any sex other then that to reproduce is unnatural. Personally I think its all as natural as living in houses and driving cars, we are natural creatures who have evolved and should except and be happy for other people who are happy as long as they are not hurting anyone.
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I think it's a big problem now on TIBB. After the racists last january with the Jade-Shilpa conflict, even on tibb, now we have the anti-homosexuals because 2 gay housemates kissed each other. We didn't see that 1 year ago on tibb, I'm not against the new members but since 2 months it's the big mess really.
Some people think it's shocking to see 2 gays kissing, was it shocking to see Becki licking Michelle's boobs, for them ? or when Sam and Makosi kissed each other in the love loft ? Apparently not, we had no scandals about it because those people liked it. But now because it's 2 boys it's the end of the world !
I'm sad to see this on TIBB, I came here because we were open-minded and because we could share our opinions without arguments. You can't say anything because you are sure somebody will argue with you !

As a straight boy, I can't see it shocking, I know some gay people and we accepted that, there was no problem, they kiss each other in front of us and I don't see it in a shocking way.

For people who think, Chanelle and Ziggy is natural, why Seany and Gerry are different ? Maybe because they don't fancy each other ? It's really stupid, some people need to be more mature and open their mind.
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Well said Remy. Put your karma on so I can give you some.
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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly wanna see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm gonna rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless crap like that!
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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm going to rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless c**p like that!
Stropz was right, your post was terribly homophobic. And more, that's something big, you said you have any problem with gay people but for you, seeing that when you are eating is a problem...that's quite strange isn"t it ? Why it could be different to see that than to see a straight couple ? Just explain to me why and as you said "rub your two brain cells together"
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Ziggy and Chanelle get a different reaction because what they are doing is natural, people are a custom to it, what Gerry and Seany are doing isn't and is foreign to most people.
How is that a homophobic post? It's fact. I have no problem with gay people at all, i'm one of those people that says "each to their own". I mean it's not something I particularly want to see one my TV screen when i'm eating my dinner or when Im out about, but that doesn't mean i'm going to rush to my phone and call Ofcom and complain or shout abuse at the next gay couple I see a kissing, which IS considered homophobic. Homosexuality has long been a part of our society and IMO they're are doing nothing wrong, it's the 21st century live and let live.

So how about you rub your two brain cells together for a little bit longer next time before posting childish, mindless c**p like that!
Stropz was right, your post was terribly homophobic. And more, that's something big, you said you have any problem with gay people but for you, seeing that when you are eating is a problem...that's quite strange isn"t it ? Why it could be different to see that than to see a straight couple ? Just explain to me why and as you said "rub your two brain cells together"
Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
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Accept that because you will see more natural behaviours like this in the next years ! The society changes !
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Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
Do you have a problem in seeing a man and woman kiss? Any why is it "natural" for a man and woman? You are saying it is unatural for two men then. Is it also unatural for 2 women?
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Two men kissing doesnt offend me.... neither does 2 girls.

I dont see the fuss to be fair.

If seeing two men kissing offends someone but not 2 women or a man and a women then I would concider this to be a homophobic comment.
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I didn't think about this Luva ! Well done !
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I didn't think about this Luva ! Well done !
Well everyone is a human being and has feelings. Gay, straight, bisexual, whatever! As long as noone is hurting anyone else, I don't see what the problem is?
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In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
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Ok, so I dont like seeing two men kiss, does that make me a homophobe? Does that mean I have a problem with them?
Do you have a problem in seeing a man and woman kiss? Any why is it "natural" for a man and woman? You are saying it is unatural for two men then. Is it also unatural for 2 women?
Nope, no problem seeing two members of the opposite sex kissing.
I think it's natural in a reproductive sense, what men and women were put here to do. Can two men reproduce?
And yes its unnatural for two women to kiss also, doesn't make it wrong though does it.
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In fact, some people think being homophobic is an opinion...but like the racism, it's NOT an opinion, it's punished by the laws, you can't express it ! Ok it's a forum, the laws thing is quite impossible but a member who is homophobic must be banned forever. It's a forum where we express opinions, not in order to accept some comments like this !
Ok just explain which part of my posts were homophobic in any any?
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