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Old 01-05-2009, 05:45 PM #1
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I didn't really know much about Abortion before we watched a video on it today in R.P (Relegion and Philosophy) and I can say that I am totally against it. It showed pictures of aborted feotuses at the latest stage I think it was 24 weeks or something like that and it was horrible. Just to throw a body like that in a waste bin (which they did) is just totally wrong to me.

I am soooooo pro life.
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I dont know what the statistics are but I would guess there is only a small percentage of abortions from the second trimester (after 12 weeks)
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I dont know what the statistics are but I would guess there is only a small percentage of abortions from the second trimester (after 12 weeks)
Yeah I know, its around 80% before 12 weeks and about 1% after 20 weeks but still, I'm against it.
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Yes most are within the first week or second week.
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Well when its just a bunch of cells and not even developed a brain yet...
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i'm pro-choice
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Yah me too ^^ but i do think the limit could be lowered a bit...no later than 20 weeks
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Yah me too ^^ but i do think the limit could be lowered a bit
Yes i agree
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Well I spose its debateable when you can call it a life. I wouldnt call it a life without a brain for one. And secondly there may be just reasons for not going through with developing a "life" it may be best for all concerned
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Woosh! where'd that go?
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I'm very pro-choice and I think the current legal time limit is right
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I think its wrong to base an opinion on a video, or an image. Obviously, looking at a picture of an aborted fetus isn't going to be a pretty.

With abortion, I don't think anyone can really say they are pro-choice or pro-life until they have been put in the situation. If a woman has been raped and is homeless, should she be forced to give birth - or be allowed the option to terminate her pregnancy? I don't know. But, as a man, I don't think it's my place to say whats right or wrong. Personally, I don't think any man has the right to say abortion is right or wrong as they will never really be put in the same position a woman will be.
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Every situation is different, who are we to say whats right and wrong when it comes to abortions?
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All I can say is it depends

If you were raped and you were going through a really tough time, would you really want a baby at that time? Espesially as it was something against your own will? Alot of people wouldnt want the baby cause it would remind them of the person that did that to them.
Another reason is maybe your just not ready for a baby yet. Maybe your really poor and you don't want to give your baby a poor life and everything?
Or what about if you founf the baby was going to be severly disabled and you don't think you could manage to take care of it??
I know you could always put the baby up for adoption and everything but I think me, myself would find that harder? I dunno if its just me but still.
I actually am against abortion if the baby is healthy and it can live a good life. Its pretty stupid and selfish if you have an abortion and there is nothing wrong at all! x
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I didn't really know much about Abortion before we watched a video on it today in R.P (Relegion and Philosophy) and I can say that I am totally against it. It showed pictures of aborted feotuses at the latest stage I think it was 24 weeks or something like that and it was horrible. Just to throw a body like that in a waste bin (which they did) is just totally wrong to me.

I am soooooo pro life.


Yes it is a Life
that we as Parents have every legal right
to Terminate.
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We were watching stuff like that last week in RE
I'm pro life, Miss read out this poem and it made me cry it was all about the baby inside the womb and it was like telling a story, like Day 1; today I was concieved, Day 21; today my mummy and daddy saw me on a screen, I bet they'll be so happy, Day 24; Today my mummy killed me
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I didn't really know much about Abortion before we watched a video on it today in R.P (Relegion and Philosophy) and I can say that I am totally against it. It showed pictures of aborted feotuses at the latest stage I think it was 24 weeks or something like that and it was horrible. Just to throw a body like that in a waste bin (which they did) is just totally wrong to me.

I am soooooo pro life.


Yes it is a Life
that we as Parents have every legal right
to Terminate.
Does the child have rights? What makes an adults rights any more important than another life just because they produced it?
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I'm still undecided on whether or not i agree. I also hate the fact that people just have abortions but think about the situation someone may be in? Supposen they had been raped etc.. the last thing you would want is more bad memories from it. However, i also disagree with it because i feel in OTHER situations just wanting to get rid of a baby because you feel you can't give it the life it needs is unfair, why not have the baby and give him/her up for abortion? At least you're giving the baby a chance of having a better life...
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I am extremely pro-choice, HOWEVER, I am also strongly about the use of abortion as a contraceptive choice.

It is obviously hard to enforce this, but I find I'm angered by the % of the population that choose abortion as a "get out" clause for their own immaturity or stupidity. People that use no protection, or contraception - or even emergency contraception (MAP) - but then trivialise getting an abortion.

I am, however, supportive of pro-choice because there are a larger % of individuals who find themselves in a bad position by being pregnant. Either by accident (whilst taking all necessary precautions bar abstinence), or because of being the victim of rape.

Being pro choice does not mean looking at abortion as a light decision.

Edit: God these videos they have you lot watching in RE are sickening. Unadulterated propaganda at it's best. Especially at the video outlining the childs thoughts of "Day 1" etc. The foetus can't think, what a load of garbage.
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I am pro-choice of course. People are free to do whatever they want with their bodies. This is just logical, I'll never understand people who are against - and I'm a catholic.
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I am pro-choice of course. People are free to do whatever they want with their bodies. This is just logical, I'll never understand people who are against - and I'm a catholic.
Their bodies? Wth? There is another living body inside them, does that body get a choice? No. I do actually understand some peoples reasoning for being Pro-Choice, though I remain strongly Pro-Life, but that is the most ridiculous I've yet to hear.
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Don't want a baby - wear protection. Simple, then there's no need for abortion.
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I am pro-choice of course. People are free to do whatever they want with their bodies. This is just logical, I'll never understand people who are against - and I'm a catholic.
Their bodies? Wth? There is another living body inside them, does that body get a choice? No. I do actually understand some peoples reasoning for being Pro-Choice, though I remain strongly Pro-Life, but that is the most ridiculous I've yet to hear.
It's about the consequences. Of course you should use protection and all that stuff but sometimes, situations make it more complicated than you think, it's not just 'yes or no'. You don't want the baby, then fair enough, it's your right not to have it.
However, girls who didn't wear protection and had sex on purpose are dumbasses.
And try to explain your point of view to a girl who has been raped.
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Don't want a baby - wear protection. Simple, then there's no need for abortion.
Not as simple as that.

Condom is only 97% effective when used correctly. So it can even happen then. Even the pill is 99% effective - again leaving a window of opportunity. There's been cases (not totally rare) of people using a combination of both and STILL getting pregnant. What about those people? Hence why I am pro-choice.
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Don't want a baby - wear protection. Simple, then there's no need for abortion.
Not as simple as that.

Condom is only 97% effective when used correctly. So it can even happen then. Even the pill is 99% effective - again leaving a window of opportunity. There's been cases (not totally rare) of people using a combination of both and STILL getting pregnant. What about those people? Hence why I am pro-choice.
And what about the condom which breaks out. I can tell you you feel very awkward after (speaking from experience)
So you can't be against, it's so selfish and narrow-minded IMO You can't force people to do something they don't want to. It's written in the Human rights that people have to respect their bodies. Perfect example.
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