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Sunny_01 · 07-02-2007, 04:07 PM

If anyone has announcements to make regarding deaths could you please pop them all in this thread

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Sticks · 08-02-2007, 05:31 AM

Can we not have a special section like we have now for serious debates, because people may want to discuss the lives of the various people covered in the death announcements.

If it is in just one thread that kind of gets lost.

Red Moon · 08-02-2007, 09:12 AM

It is a "topped topic" in that it will always be at the top the General Chat Forum so people can find it. Lets see how it works. If the people that have died cause a lot of debate then your suggestion is something we will seriously look at.

Sunny_01 · 08-02-2007, 09:54 AM

I reitierate what Red has said - we did the serious debates thing in general chat for a while to see how things went.

Sticks · 08-02-2007, 02:58 PM

As reported on the BBC

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Former Wales and Neath prop Brian Williams has died suddenly at the age of 46.

Penffordd-born Williams made his Wales debut in 1990 against Scotland and went on to win five caps for his country.

A sad day for rugby.

He was just 6 years older than me

Red Moon · 08-02-2007, 03:29 PM

Thanks for that Sticks, I'm sure a lot of people will remember him fondly.

My thoughts go to the family and those who know him that he has left behind.

Lauren · 08-02-2007, 08:00 PM

Didn't put this in obituaries cos it's breaking news. (I take that back)

She's collapsed and died.

Dan_ · 08-02-2007, 08:02 PM

I just saw that on channel 5 news, very shocking.

RIP.

Lauren · 08-02-2007, 08:03 PM

"On February 8, 2007, Smith was found unresponsive in a room of the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Florida. She was rushed to hospital. A witness told local media that paramedics were pumping her chest when they took her out of the hotel. She was later pronounced dead by doctors. Howard Stern, lawyer and unofficial husband, is suspected of murder."

From Wiki

Chrizzle · 08-02-2007, 08:03 PM

Omfg. That is unbelievable.

RIP

Diablo · 08-02-2007, 08:04 PM

Murder??!! OMG

MarkWaldorf · 08-02-2007, 08:05 PM

That's so random... :|

Chrizzle · 08-02-2007, 08:08 PM

I remember she had signed up for CBB4- but couldnt go through with it, or something.

Im really shocked.

Lauren · 08-02-2007, 08:10 PM

Her son just died recently too

There was suspected drug abuse/murder in that too.

Bells · 08-02-2007, 08:15 PM

That's really shocking!

I don't know what to say... RIP.

Red Moon · 08-02-2007, 08:18 PM

Slightly longer story

Quote:

Anna Nicole Smith dead at 39

Anna Nicole Smith died Thursday after collapsing at a hotel and being being rushed to the hospital, one of her lawyers said.

Smith collapsed in her room at the Hard Rock Cafe and Casino in Hollywood, Fla., and was rushed to a hospital on Thursday. A Hollywood, Fla., fire department spokesman told MSNBC TV that the actress was unresponsive when the rescue unit arrived on the scene and had been intubated. Smith was transported to Memorial Regional Hospital shortly after 2 p.m. EST and attorney Ron Rail confirmed that she had died nearly an hour later.

On Tuesday, Smith and the diet products company TrimSpa Inc., for which she is a spokeswoman, were sued in a class-action lawsuit alleging their marketing of a weight loss pill is false or misleading.

Smith also was order by a judge to have baby daughter undergo paternity testing. The test is being sought by Smith's former boyfriend Larry Birkhead, who claims he is the father of Dannielynn Hope Marshall Stern. She was born Sept. 7 in the Bahamas.

Less than a week after the birth of her daughter, Smith's 20-year-old son Daniel died in her hospital room while visiting Smith after the birth. An coroner's report ruled the death was caused by an overdose of anti-depressants and methadone.

Smith married Texas oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II in 1994, when she was 26 and he was 89. He died the following year.

She then feuded with Marshall's son, Pierce Marshall, over her entitlement to the tycoon's estate before he died in June at the age of 67.

In the long-running dispute, Smith had won a $474 million judgment, which was later cut to about $89 million and eventually reduced to zero. In May, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Smith could continue to pursue the fortune in federal courts in California despite a Texas state court ruling that Marshall's youngest son was the sole heir.

Source: WMC TV

Red Moon · 08-02-2007, 08:28 PM

A bit more in this story on her life

Quote:

Anna Nicole Smith Dies

Anna Nicole Smith, the former Playboy playmate whose bizarre life careened from marrying an octogenarian billionaire to the untimely death of her son, died Thursday after collapsing at a South Florida hotel, one of her lawyers said.

Smith, 39, collapsed and was unresponsive while staying at the Seminole Hard Rock Cafe Hotel and Casino, said the attorney, Ron Rale. She was rushed to a hospital.

"She checked in Monday at 8 p.m. as a guest. She was due to check out tomorrow," said Danielle Giordaano, a spokeswoman for the hotel.

Smith had been a tabloid staple even before she became Playboy's playmate of the year in 1993. Readers were fascinated by her bombshell good looks, her marriage to an elderly billionaire and subsequent court fight over his estate, her weight fluctuations, and last year, the sudden death of her 20-year-old son, Daniel Smith.

A former topless dancer, she made her name squeezing into Guess jeans. She resembled the late actress Marilyn Monroe, a similarity played up in her Guess magazine ads, billboards and department store displays.

In 1994, she married 89-year-old oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II, the head of oil-based Koch Industries, which is part of a family fortune worth at least $400 million.

He died in 1995, setting off a feud with her former stepson, E. Pierce Marshall, over whether she had a right to his estate.

A federal court in California awarded Smith $474 million in a complicated legal twist that began after she declared bankruptcy. That was later overturned.

But in May, the U.S. Supreme Court revived her case, ruling that she deserved another day in court in her battle with her former stepson.

The justices said only that federal courts in California could deal with her case despite a Texas state court ruling that Marshall was the sole heir to the estate.
Then, the stepson died June 20 at age 67. But the family said the court fight would continue.

Daniel Smith died Sept. 10 in his mother's hospital room in the Bahamas, just days after she gave birth to a daughter.

An American medical examiner hired by the family, Cyril Wecht, said he had methadone and two antidepressants in his system when he died. Low levels of the three drugs interacted to cause an accidental death, Wecht said.

Meanwhile, the paternity of her now 5-month-old daughter remained a matter of dispute.

She was born Vickie Lynn Hogan on Nov. 28, 1967, in Houston, one of six children of Donald Eugene and Virgie Hart Hogan.

She married Bill Smith in 1985, giving birth to Daniel before divorcing two years later.

Source:SFGate.com

Princess · 08-02-2007, 08:40 PM

Oh my god. This is unreal. She was just a new mum!

RIP

Noopie · 08-02-2007, 09:04 PM

That's absolutely terrible!

easypeasy · 08-02-2007, 10:22 PM

drugs overdose......quelle surprise....

Lauren · 08-02-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by easypeasy
drugs overdose......quelle surprise....

Looks like she went the same way as her son. Sad.

RIP

bonnie43uk · 08-02-2007, 10:44 PM

As someone already mentioned, .. she was one of the celebs being touted for CBB5 .. Can you imagine the uproar if she went in, then had a blazing row with Jade, and dropped down dead!!!!!

still a shock to hear she's no longer with us though.

.. i bet it was a cocaine overdose.

Rory · 08-02-2007, 10:46 PM

According to numerous posts on the internet, she's died at age 39!

Quote:

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. (AP) - Anna Nicole Smith, the pneumatic blonde whose life played out as an extraordinary tabloid tale - Playboy centerfold, jeans model, bride of an octogenarian oil tycoon, reality-show subject, tragic mother - died Thursday after collapsing at a hotel. She was 39.

LINK

Her freak at the American Music Awards (I think...I saw it on TV at the time it happened, but not sure which awards show I was watching)

and she was in Kanye West's Workout Plan video.

Sticks · 09-02-2007, 06:49 AM

But if someone wanted to discuss more of the life of say Brian Williams, it would now seem out of place amongst the discussion of Anna Nicole Smith. PLus if there is an announcement of the death of someone else, how would we know it was that and not more discussion about the people already mentioned?

This is why it is better to have separate threads for different obituries and possibly in it's own section like the serious debates. Is there a bandwifth issue over having more than one thread?

Red Moon · 09-02-2007, 09:21 AM

I see you point Sticks, but having lots of topics with one or two replies that get lost in general chat doesn't work either. It might not be as bad now as the topics don't move so fast but while the show is on it's hard to spot the announcements of peoples passing. At least by having just the one thread they are all contained in one place in General Chat in a topic that is at the top of the forum.

I have edited the the topic this morning and added subjects to all the posts. I'm shortly going to add a rule to Sunny's first post stating that members should include the name of the person they are talking about in the subject line and how to do it and I will repeat this after this post. This way as you read through the topic and you will know who people are talking about. In addition to this I will check the topic to make sure the rules are being followed and make edits accordingly and I'm sure other moderators will do the same.

Yes there was confusion about where to post the Anna Nicole Smith but that is understandable since so many death announcements have appeared in General Chat recently. But the announcement was quickly moved to the right place by myself as was the second topic that started on her death.

It's going to take time for people to get use to the new system, but like everything that is new there will be problems to start with but let us not give up on the idea of a single thread yet.

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