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Wizardmerlin 30-08-2011 10:07 PM

Did Paddy say " Poofter " ?
 
He said to one of the Jedwards " I will throw you and your Poofter brother through the screen "

Did he say that or was i hearing things ?

Jords 30-08-2011 10:09 PM

I didnt hear it :laugh:

Kerry 30-08-2011 10:09 PM

I very much doubt it

Niamh. 30-08-2011 10:10 PM

Probably but you'll never be able to prove it :laugh:

Maia 30-08-2011 10:11 PM

He could've said anything.

Kerry 30-08-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4518091)
Probably but you'll never be able to prove it :laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollie. (Post 4518098)
He could've said anything.

:joker:

Joelle. 30-08-2011 10:12 PM

He probably said something completely different to what you thought he said. Thats usually the case.

fingers 30-08-2011 10:17 PM

Received pronunciation is not really his thing, is it?

Kate! 30-08-2011 10:19 PM

I think he said stupid brother but its hard to tell with Paddy. I find him quite a decent chap now,didnt at first.

Semtex 30-08-2011 10:22 PM

"I swear on my life I was gonna throw him & his *******ed up brother through the screen."

Omah 30-08-2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4518151)
"I swear on my life I was gonna throw him & his *******ed up brother through the screen."

There'd be no complaints from me ..... :cheer2:

Zippy 30-08-2011 10:26 PM

Its hardly difficult to imagine him use words like that.

But to me its more about intent rather than the words. I didnt see it so I don't know the context.

Locke. 30-08-2011 10:27 PM

Who cares people call them much worse all over the internet, and he isn't exactly wrong is he.

Wizardmerlin 30-08-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4518151)
"I swear on my life I was gonna throw him & his *******ed up brother through the screen."

Yes you are right he did say *******ed up, damn i need subtitles for paddy and Tara.

lostalex 31-08-2011 07:36 AM

He definitely said "fooked up brother", i just re-watched it.

I still think he's homophobic though, based on what he said to Sally after she asked what if his son is gay.

Ammi 31-08-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4518798)
He definitely said "fooked up brother", i just re-watched it.

I still think he's homophobic though, based on what he said to Sally after she asked what if his son is gay.

Yes I think that's one of the Traveller commandments 'Thou shall not be gay'

Semtex 31-08-2011 08:05 AM

Paddy has always been very attached to the Church.
Have you seen the price of lead?

joeysteele 31-08-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 4518805)
Yes I think that's one of the Traveller commandments 'Thou shall not be gay'

You are right on that it is frowned on massively.
Actually Paddy did himself no favours with his rant, however he did admit in the diary room, that he couldn't explain his thinking at the minute, that he was missing his wife and that just about all the people he is in the house with are simply 'not' his type of people.

Since Jedward are the noisiest and most persistent, they got the main thrust of his frustration but it will go over their heads,they never take offence and just take what's said about them and thrown at them.

Paddy likely rules the roost in part of his community, he naturally will find being in the house massively hard.I don't think he would ever really insult a woman and I think Tara and Pamela are really annoying him now, so instead of them he turned on easier targets.

I am just glad he didn't really explode,could have been rather nasty.

onedrip 31-08-2011 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4518806)
Paddy has always been very attached to the Church.
Have you seen the price of lead?

Classic.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-08-2011 10:09 AM

Hope he did and hope they didnt block it out.

None of this pc business.

Livia 31-08-2011 11:21 AM

If he did say it - and I really don't think he did - then he would have to be thrown out. I remember Emily who said the 'N' word to Charley. I think everyone agreed there was no malice in it, but she was marched out of the house in her jimjams in the middle of the night. I don't see how calling someone a poofter would be any more acceptable.

daniel-lewis-1985 31-08-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4518938)
If he did say it - and I really don't think he did - then he would have to be thrown out. I remember Emily who said the 'N' word to Charley. I think everyone agreed there was no malice in it, but she was marched out of the house in her jimjams in the middle of the night. I don't see how calling someone a poofter would be any more acceptable.

Nah Channel 5 arent as PC as Channel 4

lostalex 31-08-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4518938)
If he did say it - and I really don't think he did - then he would have to be thrown out. I remember Emily who said the 'N' word to Charley. I think everyone agreed there was no malice in it, but she was marched out of the house in her jimjams in the middle of the night. I don't see how calling someone a poofter would be any more acceptable.


You are presuming that they take homophobia as seriously as racism. I don't think they do.

I don't think they take misogyny as seriously eigther.

Unfortuinately gays and women don't kick up as much of a fuss as the racial minorities. Don't you know? they are "special"

Ammi 31-08-2011 11:49 AM

He said he could throw 'him and his ********ed up brother through the screen'
Shows how bad it is when we need subtitles to understand what the housemates are saying

Livia 31-08-2011 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4518976)
You are presuming that they take homophobia as seriously as racism. I don't think they do.

I think you're wrong. I think some people take homophobia a lot more seriously than racism. Yourself, for instance. I've just seen you take exception to someone saying something is "gay" on another thread... and yet you made some seriously racist comments to me last week.

Livia 31-08-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4518976)
You are presuming that they take homophobia as seriously as racism. I don't think they do.

I don't think they take misogyny as seriously eigther.

Unfortuinately gays and women don't kick up as much of a fuss as the racial minorities. Don't you know? they are "special"

Ahhh I missed your edit.

My last comment applies even more.

lostalex 31-08-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4518985)
I think you're wrong. I think some people take homophobia a lot more seriously than racism. Yourself, for instance. I've just seen you take exception to someone saying something is "gay" on another thread... and yet you made some seriously racist comments to me last week.


I made racist comments to you last week? What race are you? I don't even know what race you are so how could i have made a racist comment towards you?

You are obviously mistaking me for someone else.

Niamh. 31-08-2011 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4518985)
I think you're wrong. I think some people take homophobia a lot more seriously than racism. Yourself, for instance. I've just seen you take exception to someone saying something is "gay" on another thread... and yet you made some seriously racist comments to me last week.

I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

Chuck 31-08-2011 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4518996)
I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

I agree.

Livia 31-08-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 4518996)
I think most people will take which ever is closest to the them or which ever one they've actually experienced more seriously which is understandable I suppose

Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

Livia 31-08-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4518993)
I made racist comments to you last week? What race are you? I don't even know what race you are so how could i have made a racist comment towards you?

You are obviously mistaking me for someone else.

I'd say go back and look at them, but the mods removed them presumably because they were racist.

Omah 31-08-2011 12:07 PM

Paddy Doherty breaks down after Fright Night saying he can't mix with 'country people
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...#ixzz1WbiShgex

Quote:

'I'm on the edge': Paddy Doherty breaks down after Fright Night saying he can't mix with 'country people' as he brands housemates 'morons'

After watching a screening of the film Fright Night Paddy was left fuming at the antics of the troublesome twins Jedward and he stormed into the diary room.

The My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding star screamed as he entered the diary room and told Big Brother explained his confusion.

He said: ‘I’m all *******ed up in the head here.’You don’t understand Big Brother. I don’t know what is wrong. Look at this.’

As he sat with his head in his hands Paddy revealed he felt ‘disgusted’ after seeing the horror film and branded everyone else in the house was a ‘moron’.

He also revealed he was having trouble mixing with ‘country people.’

Paddy ranted: ‘I’m like a fish out of water. I don’t mix with country people.’

‘They are laughing at stupid things. I need my woman to say Paddy you are alright.’

Paddy broke down after he watched a special screening of Fright Night with task winners Jedward, Tara, Bobby, Pamela and John.

The housemates had been tasked with eating garlic dishes and Paddy had eaten his garlic ice cream quicker than Lucien.

After finishing the foul food Paddy was seen holding his head in his hands screaming: ‘Mummy, mummy, mummy.’

Speaking to Big Brother after the task he said: ‘I’m dying. I’m a write off. I need a priest to give me a blessing and I need a doctor to look at my stomach.’
I'm sure he'd feel better if he murdered the twins ..... :evilgrin:

:joker:

lostalex 31-08-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4519007)
Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

I completely disagree.

Abuse breads empathy? i think not. Just look at the studies about domestic violence. In almost every case both perpetrators and victims of domestic violence come from households where they witnessed domestic violence themselves as children.

People who suffered abuse as children are more likely to beat their own kids, and commit violence against their own children.

Almost all pedophiles and child molestors were molested themselves as children.

African Americans in the US are by FAR the most homophobic group in the US, in fact in California it's well documented that the only reason gay marriage did not pass into law was because of the black vote.


Hate breeds hate, it does NOT breed tolerance or empathy. scientifically speaking.

lostalex 31-08-2011 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4519012)
I'd say go back and look at them, but the mods removed them presumably because they were racist.

Well you claim i said something so "racist" against you, but you can't even remember what it was?

And you don't even tell me what race you are! how am i meant to defend myself against claims of racism if i don't even know which race i'm meant to hate?

You have serious issues, and i don't appreciate being called a racist, that is INCREDIBLY offensive. I've got no more time for you, please stop harassing me.

joeysteele 31-08-2011 12:21 PM

Paddy,is just Paddy, he comes from different way of life altogether, he has tolerated all the others except Sally, who he found interesting and good to talk to.

His outburst yesterday was out of order in part, he went too far and he I think,realised that by going to the diary room to cool down.

As with other housemates he thinks the twins are in fairyland as he does Tara and Pamela too,he simply cannot accept and adjust to dealing with the people in the house and their different ways.

As to wanting to murder the twins, the worst thing he could possibly be able to do was to nominate them for eviction and he did not, so maybe they don't really annoy him as much as it seems and that yesterday he took his frustrations out more on them because they are much younger than most in there and easier targets for him.

He won't get away with such nasty rants in the future but there is only about 1 week to go now and so I am sure Paddy can be forgiven this outburst this once.
If there was still weeks to go though, I could see Paddy walking out, these people as he says are simply not his people.

Livia 31-08-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4519031)
Well you claim i said something so "racist" against you, but you can't even remember what it was?

And you don't even tell me what race you are! how am i meant to defend myself against claims of racism if i don't even know which race i'm meant to hate?

You have serious issues, and i don't appreciate being called a racist, that is INCREDIBLY offensive. I've got no more time for you, please stop harassing me.

You abuse me and can't remember it, and I have issues?

Niamh. 31-08-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4519007)
Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.


You would imagine so, yeah, but you also get the "well, they've had it easy compared to me" crowd

joeysteele 31-08-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 4519007)
Maybe you're right. But I think that when you've taken abuse, usually it makes you a little more empathetic. Not always, but sometimes.

100% correct again Livia.

LeatherTrumpet 31-08-2011 01:28 PM

is "little woofter" better


either one fits with both

Vicky. 31-08-2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy (Post 4518169)
But to me its more about intent rather than the words..

Agree 100% with this.

People get so worked up over a word, when the word itself isnt really the problem.


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