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Becker 08-08-2012 12:54 PM

Is this really the Big Brother we wanted?
 
We are all different, each one of us in our own unique way. As a species we have done so many amazing things and in turn some very bad things. Anyway enough of the pre-amble lets get to the point.

We come toward the end of another BB but one that I think that in time will definitely stand out as one of the most contentious. Things have been said that have upset people, things have happened that have driven most of us to distraction but why so this particular series? I think this one is unique in that we have never had such a large collection of dis-likable housemates under one roof. It took me quite a while to single anyone out as favorites and even now I don't have any single favorite, but those I and most people seem to like are down to Deana, Adam and Luke A. Why? Because they possess that particular human quality that most or the majority identify with. Common decency. They are not without their faults as we all are but at least they have quality of being. It isn't rocket science for me, as the saying goes good manners cost nothing and it's the easiest thing in the world to be reasonable with one another. Yet we have endured a despicable bunch this time in, Conor, Becky, Caroline, Ashleigh, Arron, Shievonne and Luke S.

Sara and Scott don't escape criticism either and are firmly in my dislike corner although not in the same category as the others. They're just hangers on who have shifted like the beads on an abacus whenever it suited them. It was such a pity we lost some potentially strong housemates, who given time could have made this series a lot more comfortable to watch than some of the nastiness we have had to witness.

Anyway the final approaches and the remaining insiders are now in our gun-sights apart from Mr S who will definitely be first out on final night closely followed by Sara. I'm glad good is prevailing and we should get another worthy winner, at least in comparison to what could have won it. Yet I believe the future is bleak for BB as I think they are destroying what it was all about in the first place. I don't think someone finishing in seventh with 50K is something anyone in their wildest dreams could have envisaged. Letters from home - visits from friends and family - family members nominating etc etc etc
Unless it gets back to basics, the original formula and a more meaningful selection housemate wise, it's screwed and in turn we will be also.

Kate! 08-08-2012 01:01 PM

One of the best posts I have seen, interesting read and right on the button (oops sorry poor sad deluded Luke S :laugh:)

I find it difficult to understand why they deliberately chose (for the majority of hms this year) the most horrible people they could find. Thank crunchie they put Luke A and Deana in, the fact that are both still there goes some way towards restoring my faith.

Knitting Nana 08-08-2012 01:10 PM

Amen to that Becker *salutes

HBB1508 08-08-2012 01:15 PM

Great post - I do wonder where C5 are trying to take our beloved program to - this series has been very strange and fairly lame imo.

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:19 PM

My only reservation on your post, which incidently was really good, would be that this year the production team put someone in there that they thought would be the perfect asian HM. What they failed to see was who she really was, someone who has made the series all her own for all the wrong reasons and BB lost total control.

Ultra Violet 08-08-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5385103)
My only reservation on your post, which incidently was really good, would be that this year the production team put someone in there that they thought would be the perfect asian HM. What they failed to see was who she really was, someone who has made the series all her own for all the wrong reasons and BB lost total control.

Obsessed ... ? Vous ... ? Even (after all these exchanges) toi ... ?

Surely not ... :joker:

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Violet (Post 5385127)
Obsessed ... ? Vous ... ? Even (after all these exchanges) toi ... ?

Surely not ... :joker:

Did you write it like this deliberately so I couldnt reply cause I cant understand what the hell you are saying.

Anthony Hatface 08-08-2012 01:35 PM

Excellent post, though to suggest a possible interpretation, it may have been in one sense pure bad luck for the producers that they underestimated the potential of the mean and nasty crew to band together and strategically eliminate some very promising characters early in the run.

Having said that, I hope they will recover more of the original formula next year. I keep hearing how much better that was, and as a latecomer to the show I am very curious to see what it all evolved from.

Jimrod 08-08-2012 01:35 PM

Totally agree with the OP. This has been one of the worst series for sure, I wanted Lauren to win but only because I found her marginally more likeable than most of the others - in another series I wouldn't have really cared for her much at all. Adam has probably been the nicest guy overall but even then you can see that he's after the cash and quickly goes to sit on the fence when arguments arise.

Last year's series was very different - they were a far more likeable bunch on the whole and the atmosphere was far better for it, yes there were arguments and issues but it was FUN. This series has entirely lacked FUN.

Same old tired twists and turns, tedious tasks - yawn. How about next time just putting more "normal" people in there? You don't need to always put in the same mix of 2 or 3 gay guys, some trans-sexuals, models, minorities etc etc. Just find a bunch of reasonable fun people whatever their background! They've sucked the life out of the show for sure this year.

Jimrod 08-08-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Hatface (Post 5385139)
Excellent post, though to suggest a possible interpretation, it may have been in one sense pure bad luck for the producers that they underestimated the potential of the mean and nasty crew to band together and strategically eliminate some very promising characters early in the run.

Having said that, I hope they will recover more of the original formula next year. I keep hearing how much better that was, and as a latecomer to the show I am very curious to see what it all evolved from.

BB Did let the "gangs" take over too much this year, other years there have been more all-up-for-evictions and late-comers to the house. The all-up evictions help weed out the really nasty parties but it showed this year when it didn't happen that they take control over the nicer, more passive people.

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:40 PM

Its rumoured that BB have asked me and Chuff to go in next year, we would shake these younguns up and give you something to watch. lol

Mitnick 08-08-2012 01:41 PM

I think BB did a good job. I liked the daily tasks and the way they played the contestants off against each other.
But, some of the more interesting characters were voted off too early.

Jords 08-08-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by *Kate* (Post 5385061)
One of the best posts I have seen, interesting read and right on the button (oops sorry poor sad deluded Luke S :laugh:)

I find it difficult to understand why they deliberately chose (for the majority of hms this year) the most horrible people they could find. Thank crunchie they put Luke A and Deana in, the fact that are both still there goes some way towards restoring my faith.

BULLYING :nono:

Mumbles 08-08-2012 01:48 PM

I agree with the OP, it's been a pretty shoddy bunch this year. I've not missed a single person who's been evicted this year and it took me ages to even got close to picking a favourite (Adam btw, best of a bad bunch, unphased by most things, reasonable, measured, controlled, a decent guy basically, especially in comparison with most of the others). I don't think this series has ever been boring, like some previous years, but it's not generally the kind of entertainment I enjoy.

Like the OP I also wish they'd get back to basics - no outside visitors, no outside interference, no contact with friends and family, no personal/secret tasks, etc. just a diverse group of people with something to say for themselves living together for 10 weeks, taking part in weekly tasks to earn their food. BB used to treat everyone equally, and gave everyone the same chance in there but that is no longer true. Now it's more like an indoor version of Get Me Out Of Here with added bitchiness.

Vanessa 08-08-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5385157)
Its rumoured that BB have asked me and Chuff to go in next year, we would shake these younguns up and give you something to watch. lol

Omg! You should both apply! You'd both be amazing! :amazed:

Jords 08-08-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5385157)
Its rumoured that BB have asked me and Chuff to go in next year, we would shake these younguns up and give you something to watch. lol

Evicted week 1 + 2 :whistle:

Mitnick 08-08-2012 01:51 PM

The young people won't watch a bunch of oldies.

Jords 08-08-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitnick (Post 5385186)
The young people won't watch a bunch of oldies.

Burn!!!!!

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5385182)
Evicted week 1 + 2 :whistle:

Aw Jords, how can you say that. I love you and you just pour scorn on my idea. With my looks and quick wit and Chuffs unbelievable charm and pleasing personality, we would have them cleaning every morning, no swearing, cooking lessons, no sex unless me and chuff can watch and nobody allowed to stay sober at night except me cause i dont drink. The house would be like a new pin and all the HM,s would thank us for showing them the error of their ways.

Mitnick 08-08-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5385188)
Burn!!!!!

Seriously, it's about the ratings.

Marcus. 08-08-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitnick (Post 5385191)
Seriously, it's about the ratings.

they what to see young just party

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitnick (Post 5385186)
The young people won't watch a bunch of oldies.

A BUNCH OF OLDIES, have you seen what these so called youngsters do, they friggin sleep all day. Tell me what they could bring that we couldnt.

Jords 08-08-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 5385189)
Aw Jords, how can you say that. I love you and you just pour scorn on my idea. With my looks and quick wit and Chuffs unbelievable charm and pleasing personality, we would have them cleaning every morning, no swearing, cooking lessons, no sex unless me and chuff can watch and nobody allowed to stay sober at night except me cause i dont drink. The house would be like a new pin and all the HM,s would thank us for showing them the error of their ways.

I am only teasing lol
And I well thought that was gonna say 'no sex unless me and chuff get it on' :joker:

sampvt 08-08-2012 01:59 PM

I expend more energy having a dump than Scott does in his entire day, dont tell me about being old. Me and Chuff would have LF reinstated becasue nobody would dare miss a moment and ch5 would re write the rule book. God forbid, now you got me thinking, lol.

Mitnick 08-08-2012 02:02 PM

I can see a BB with walking frames and commode chairs. People with dementia who meet new housemates everyday.
Just Kidding....

The younger people just seem more stupid and are easier to manipulate.


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