I haven't watched any highlights yet today, but does Helen get more interesting as the weeks go on as an individual? Because so far she seems like a nice girl but extremely dull.

You don't like it Niamh, you only think you do. It's only a matter of time before you realise that BB4 was the pinnacle of Big Brother and your favourite.

:laugh: She's ditzy in an amusing way. But compared to a lot of recent "ditzy" housemates, she's Einstein.

Oh right yes you're right, sorry about that

***She's not pretending to be ditzy like they do now

I'm trying to get her but I just can't at the minute, maybe she will get better who knows.

aww I loved Helen, where are you watching these btw Mock?

On Youtube.

If you have any trouble finding the links then I'll give you one if you're interested.

Anyway another update after watching the next highlight show.

1. Narinder
2. Paul
3. Brian
4. Amma
5. Bubble
6. Helen
7. Stuart (I don't like him but tbf he does more than the other three)
8. Penny
9. Dean
10. Elizabeth

I think I'm going to rewatch it as well

Stuart does not do more than Penny, that's the biggest lie in this thread

I said that BB2 kinda sucked and nothing happened and then I had people jumping down my throat telling me to explain myself, so I did.

I find it hard remembering when I actually liked Narinder and her friendship with Brian.

Nowdays I can't stand her. :laugh:

Nobody jumped down your throat, people merely asked for more specifics on what you didn't like because you made a couple of vague statements about "plot movement". The discussion then went in another direction when you made the comment that people only like it due to nostalgia.

The statements I made weren't any less vague than the series in question was itself; BB2 lacking forward plot movement and any sort of development is kind of commonplace when discussing BB2.

The conversation turned in a different direction when I said that the argument COULD be made (not even that I agree with it) that BB4 had more going on than BB2 and thus could be seen as better. But apparently it's ludicrous to give BB4 any credit despite the fact that most of the vocal BB4 haters haven't seen it since it aired it haven't even seen it.

I merely asked you what you meant by lack of plot or plot movement because to me it was vague and not actually explaining much.

Nobody jumped down your throat, at least I didn't, I asked a question about what you posted.

Well, I didn't have the conversation about BB4 with you, another poster did but I was referring to this comment you made to me...

Assuming the only reason I like it is due to nostalgia, which is ridiculous.

So ridiculous that you started talking about the nostalgic appeal right after!

You started having a debate with daniel lewis right after so you're either getting us mixed up or you imagined it.

#mixedup ~~~

:conf: I wasn't going on about nostalgia.

I was talking about how I prefer Big Brother to be about a group of stranger getting to know one another. The live feeds watching them having long conversations.

Not the overflow "story lines" and constant bitching and arguing. Staging and blowing things out of proportion for the cameras.

The same went for last summer. I loved the small amount of live feed we'd get, watching the housemates settle down after an eviction and discuss the night's/or the previous week's events.

That's not nostalgia, that's a preference of what I'd like to see in the highlights show.

Telling me I only like BB2 because of nostalgia, is because I'm remembering 2001 and only like it because of how everything was back in 2001. Romanticising the past by forgetting the bad parts. Or having some strong personal affinity with that time. I don't, I barely remember 2001.

It isn't. It's how I prefer the show in 2014 too.

Well good luck then because the show hasn't been like that in a while and it won't be :joker:

Yes, I'm quite aware. Hence I've voiced my hatred of many elements of current BB many times.

Do keep up. ;)

But every now and then we're able to watch housemates engage in conversation. They just need to set the casting net wider than a pool of good looking, brainless models who have no social skills.

Mock regarding helen after the first 2 weeks I would say yes she does get better

Narinder's a strange one, she's likeable around Brian but horrible around everyone else lol, yet I still find her the most fascinating one in there.

Ok thanks BigSister, I hope you're right as I'm not getting how she manages to beat Paul by such a landslide and get 2 million votes against Brian.

I don't get what type of point you're tying to make and I think you have been waffling on for so long now neither do you.

Why not get back to discussing what the OP meant and discuss the fact they are watching BB2.

Gotta say I like hearing the opinions of BB fans who watch the earlier Big Brothers for the first time as a lot of the younger members have an opinion of BB1/2 as boring so wont watch them.

Got Patrick to watch BB3 and its one of his top series now hope your enjoying the series op :)

BB2 was amazing, top 5 for sure.

I haven't been waffling on at all, you and Marsh just bore me that's all. And first you were asking me to explain myself further and now you're telling me to get back on topic, you can't have it both ways. So with that said, I don't get what point you're trying to make (or why you even posted.)