Kavana makes uncomfortable viewing
 

The way he was going on and you could tell Keith felt awkward. I felt awkward too. It wasn't dramatic it was just weird :nono: They weren't surprised he turned that way when drunk though so there's obviously stuff we haven't seen :idc:

If he keeps getting too much to drink I can almost see another one being told to leave.

He just committed career suicide.

its the old story, some people are incredibly upleasant when they have had a drink, and Kav is one of them. He is known for it. There is a reason he has had no career for ages.

I thought if Cheggers had just accepted the apolgy instead of going on and on then it wud have blew over. I thought cheggers was being a bit odd tbh.

I just don't think he is used to it, I mean come on it Cheggers. To me it felt like Kav was beating a rabbit to death using a kitten as a club.

Probably came out of nowhere to Cheggers that's why.

It was really uncomfortable to watch

there is alot of build up as far back as day one, so it will kick off alot more.

Hardly

Why should he accept a drunken apology?...he wanted to hear it from a sober heart. Let's remember Keith had a problem with alcohol..an alcoholic apology isn't a genuine one...he just said lets talk about it in the morning when you are sober. Kav is weak and showed some colours tonight. He has been holding back all this time...shame he didn't tell Perez some home truths. Vent off to a fence sitter instead of a real **** stirrer shows a very weak man.
I don't like fence sitters but Keith is genuinely just a nice guy...and Keith has been very diplomatic in there and he has spoken up when he felt the need to...kava a has been the biggest fence sitter in the house...

Wow he made me wretch... the way he turned it around so it seemed as if keith had offended him!?

Poor me, poor me....Pour me another drink!

Mind you it worked for welsh :/

Two weeks of doing naff all and manages to make himself look like a complete wanker in the space of 5 minutes of highlights.

Not bad :clap1:

:joker:

Is that the right terminology when his career died a death 15 years ago?

True, I guess I was thinking about his TV career as opposed to the singing one. In retrospect he probably hasn't killed it but certainly it is not looking great right now.

I can remember how paranoid he was asking KP about the public perception of him. I can see why now, imo nothing worse than a nasty drunk.

Ive said this from day 1. Its taken longer than I thought it would but he will defo crack up in there he cannot keep up appearences for another 2 weeks.

He doesn't seem like he has much to offer at all. He's got no charisma, charm or talent. He'll vanish back into obscurity after this.

I agree with this.Part of the attraction of the shows for myself is to try and workout who is acting out a game plan and who is reacting as normally as possible within the house.

So being a genuine nice guy who does not seek confrontation is not sitting on the fence. Last night Keith was correct not to let the drunken apology go without having a final word.He was hurt by what was said and made this clear.

If the other fella has past form for getting gobby when drunk yet still choses to drink then that's on him.

Keith does not produce exciting viewing but has maintained his decency and that's to be applauded imo.

And really, let's be honest, that is the goal this season for them all! :joker:
It was messy, but it actually endeared me to Kav the poor non-confrontational sod. All that pent up emotion towards a misunderstanding of Ken's actions that he need the courage of alcohol to say. It didn't work to say it this way... But at least he finally got it out.

:dance: :dance: :dance: Keith is ahole, even he seems to be like a nice older guy to everyone. Fake as fake can be.

Keith is just doing his own thing :nono: