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Pete. 22-05-2015 10:04 PM

Is BBUK the victim of racism? (Pray for Saira Khan)
 
Lets be serious here, following Adjoa's unjustful eviction can some uncomfortable issues be raised when looking at the history of black female contestants on Big Brother.

Here are some examples:

Melanie: The first black female contestant was loved mostly amongst the house and yet not cared for by the public, she came last in Channel 4's 2005 Best Housemate poll.

Amma: The first Black contestant to receive the 'angry black girl' edit and was thus evicted when she was first up.

Adele: The first ever housemate to be heavily booed on their exit when the irony was that JADE was the main culprit for behaviour worthy of booing.

Vanessa: Her housemate qualities were largely overlooked by the public and people only commented that she ate too much. Her eviction came about when Vanessa and Makosi (the only black females) received the most votes from the public and when she was evicted in one of the cruellest evictions she was booed heavily.

Makosi - She came 3rd and top female of her year. However, in week 1 she could have easily have failed her mission and been nominated and evicted as the public had not gotten to know her yet. Also, on the week of Vanessa's eviction had it not been for the twist she would have been evicted with the most public votes. She also received one of the worst eviction receptions from the crowd in her final and in her UBB eviction.

BO Dawn - Confusingly Dawn was easily the favourite to go during the first eviction of BB7 but I can't see why.

Shilpa - Shilpa was treated awfully by the crowd and public before the race row exploded. Even when she won she was booed and some people STILL believe that Shilpa was in the wrong and only won out of pity

Nicky: The public again focused on the 'man-hating' side of Nicky and not the housemate that Nicky was and even Davina treated her unfairly.

Charley: Viewed as heavily aggressive by the public, and was constantly chanted by the crowd outside for weeks, despite not being up for eviction. Yet, Helen Wood, viewed as more aggressive than Charley and Alexandra and received 14 warning from BB in 2 weeks, won her series.

Sophia: Evicted the first week she was nominated by the public (although she did receive enough votes to become a housemate) with around 91% of the votes because she had two arguments with Saffia however Saffia left on the same day and the eviction should have been cancelled.

Hira: Heavily booed on entrance, however had the best reception for her series on her eviction but she was evicted over more hated housemates such as Lisa. She too treated awful by the producers who called her the most entertaining housemates in an attempt to humiliate her.

Rachael: Evicted on the first week against Sunshine who had received the most hate from the housemates and crowd alike and yet remained over Rachael.

Govan: His bitchiness was overly exaggerated by the viewers and the producers but was evicted over favourite to go Dave.

Ife: Slaughtered and booed for being 'boring' when BB11's final consisted of Andrew, JJ and Mario.

Tashie: A nice girl, and yet the first evicted. Why? Because she did a sex tape

Heaven: Called out on fighting (in a two-sided manner with Rebeckah) and was evicted in week 3.

Shievonne: Went from being a favourite to most hated in a space of a few weeks. When she was nominated for the first time against CONOR she received only around 19% of the vote meaning that CONOR receievd about 81%.

Gina: Instantly disliked as a 'rich bitch' although I don't recall Grace etc getting as much hate as Gina did on her launch night. She must have narrowly escaped eviction against Sallie by around 1/2% and by doing so allowed time for the public to develop their opinion on her, mostly positively. She was easily favourite to win right up to the last minute when Sam overtook as the anti-Dexter and Gina vote.

Pauline - Also quickly went from being launch night favourite to national enemy in a period of a few days. Maybe she should have chilled out on the chicken but the point being that she was evicted with an incredible landslide bearing in mind it was a 7-way (?) eviction.

Toya A Washington - Toya was vilified after Hurricane Toya hit the house over the course of one weekend and she was evicted the first time she was nominated, arguably because she came across more ghetto when Marlon and Winston came over most aggressive.

Biannca - After Simon (:spin:) hold the record for the shortest time spent in the house, 4 days. The public latched on the fact she was a tad promiscuous and felt she deserved saving the least over PAV.

Adjoa - She did nothing to deserve chants and boos and was evicted her first time nominated for seemingly no apparent reason, even Emma agrees.

Sam - A lovely girl slated for being fake and scheming and was given very little airtime because she wasn't the stereotypical 'angry minority' etc.

Tiffany - Even the biggest talking point and the bookies favourite to win couldn't get beyond 4th place (over Darren Day and Scotty T :conf2:)

Natalie - Seemingly picked apart by viewers at every given opportunity whenever she raised her voice, and her kinder side was rarely shown on the show. These are the same people who picked up the phone to vote for Helen to win BB15.

Saira - The fact that she left over Heavy D (who constantly referred to her as Ciara as well was a joke), BEAR and Irrellewis...

This is NOT a baiting thread but one for serious debate and discussion. I for one believe there is a sinister undertone for the fact that black housemates are more rapidly hated than white females and men in general. The truth is that Shilpa is the only minority female housemate to win BB and people still think it was because of a pity vote and not because she was the best housemate. In the regular series, there have been 15 winners so far, and only one of them has been black, Brian.

Discuss please, I expect some level of disagreement

LukeB 22-05-2015 10:05 PM

No it's nothing to do with race at all :laugh:

Marsh. 22-05-2015 10:06 PM

It's easy to cry racism or homophobia or sexism or literally anything you can pluck out of thin air and pick out lists like this from a show that has had hundreds of housemates and ran for 31 series for the last 15 years.

Liam- 22-05-2015 10:06 PM

No it isn't

LukeB 22-05-2015 10:07 PM

Brian Belo won
Gina survived so many evictions

Drew. 22-05-2015 10:07 PM

Pretty much every single housemate mentioned in the OP turned out to be a dick so i don't think race comes into it at all.

Jake. 22-05-2015 10:08 PM

No, it's a victim of casting ****ing dire black female housemates

T* 22-05-2015 10:09 PM

i dont know
i somewhat agree

y.winter 22-05-2015 10:10 PM

With one winner at the end of this series, the house is full of white people to be evicted. It's more mutual-race evictees than black evictees.

Kizzy 22-05-2015 10:11 PM

They as individuals were just uber annoying so its hard to say.

Pete. 22-05-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7797052)
It's easy to cry racism or homophobia or sexism or literally anything you can pluck out of thin air and pick out lists like this from a show that has had hundreds of housemates and ran for 31 series for the last 15 years.

But literally every black female has been hated for some reason or another, she talks about pussy too much, she eats too much, she's so depressing, she is too loud

Josy 22-05-2015 10:12 PM

No.

People always give totally acceptable reasons for disliking housemates yet those reasons seem to be rubbished by others that are trying to claim racism.

Obviously Adjoa being evicted tonight has brought this on but I honestly think in her case she got off in on the wrong foot with the whole 'pussay' talk and that's probably why she was nominated by the housemates too, unless they are also going to be accused of racism?

She seemed to have calmed down a bit the past few days but by this point it was too late for her.

For the record I don't think she should have went tonight and would have preferred Eileen to go.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2015 10:14 PM

Tbh after seeing the result I can't help but feel that there's some hidden undertones of racism going on because if Danny was up in this eviction would he have been voted out because of his sex talk? I don't think so.

And I would say that Eileen's behaviour the last few days has been horrific, yet she stays over Adjoa who's biggest crime was saying pussy a lot, it says it all really.

I've never really bought it before when BB just plonked stereotypical black contestants in the house, but Adjoa wasn't like that and still got voted off, and Kieran's controversial too for almost no reason.

LukeB 22-05-2015 10:14 PM

Can I just say, why is the OP all women? where are the males

mrmattybeck1 22-05-2015 10:15 PM

Oh no not this again :( every series this comes up

icecakes 22-05-2015 10:15 PM

What a load of rubbish, what about all the white people thats been evicted ,was that racist:conf3:

Pete. 22-05-2015 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7797097)
Can I just say, why is the OP all women? where are the males

This is in response to Adjoa's eviction and most black men are loved

Josy 22-05-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7797106)
This is in response to Adjoa's eviction and most black men are loved

So you have now answered your own questions?

Unless you are accusing the public of being racist only towards Black females which would then make them racist and sexist.

LukeB 22-05-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7797106)
This is in response to Adjoa's eviction and most black men are loved

Then it's not really Racism is it? but Science/Victor was not loved
Sree too he was not loved.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 22-05-2015 10:20 PM

pete :worship:

Absorption 22-05-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7797106)
This is in response to Adjoa's eviction and most black men are loved

In which case, it's not racially motivated.

I have no problem with black women unless they act like arseholes, which most on the list did whilst on BB.

Adjoa probably deserved eviction less than any of the examples given but I imagine those voting saw more entertainment potential in Sarah and Eileen.

As for the point about Danny, no, he wouldn't have been voted out for talking about sex because the girlies voting fancy him.

Pete. 22-05-2015 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7797110)
So you have now answered your own questions?

Unless you are accusing the public of being racist only towards Black females which would then make them racist and sexist.

Perhaps

Pete. 22-05-2015 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 7797111)
Then it's not really Racism is it? but Science/Victor was not loved
Sree too he was not loved.

And yet Marlon stayed over Pauline and Toya when both girls brought much more to the show

Marsh. 22-05-2015 10:23 PM

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Marsh. 22-05-2015 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7797130)
And yet Marlon stayed over Pauline and Toya when both girls brought much more to the show

Because the loudest and more controversial housemates never get evicted ahead of the quieter ones regardless of skin colour?

Ok.


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