Brillos brexit thread
 

Nnnnn

This specific decision was made after (and probably in light of) the Brexit vote, and only "refuels speculation" that they were planning to try to get more cash out of the UK if it had been remain. We will never actually know the truth there. It will always be speculation.

I do feel that the EU will be in trouble with one of its cornerstones removed and it may well not last in its current form; Brexit voters will always assume that this was us "getting out just in time", rather than considering the possibility that "getting out" was the catalyst for the whole thing ceasing to work.

We could muse over these things until the cows come home though; we can't try both paths and see both outcomes, we can only continue on the path we're on, and the rest is nothing more than "what ifs" and guesswork.

I'm sure that's going to prove delightfully popular with all the other states who will lose rebates.

Leaving the EU has the endorsement not only of a referendum,but of a general election
 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/...this-election/

Britain is behind Brexit - it!s official.

Yes, yes, yes, we're leaving the EU, I believe this has been debated to death and there is no point crying over milk that has been spilt so long that it has begun to grow fungus.

I think it's more that everyone knows they can't so much as breathe the words "I voted remain" without being screamed at for being unpatriotic.

Mmmm fungus

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/drool.gif

Yep, especially since a lot of remainers, like me, voted as much for patriotic reasons as many leavers did. I believed, and still believe this country is stronger in Europe.

I'm happy with brexit... I would not be happy with a tory brexit.

Saw a guy say h wouldn't trust may with a two piece jigsaw....couldn't have put it better myself!

The maternity unit at the main hospital used by Theresa May’s local constituents is so severely understaffed that wards are running with only a quarter of the nurses they need, potentially putting mothers’ and babies’ lives at risk.

The Royal Berkshire hospital’s staffing data shows that on some days in March its delivery suite lacked two-thirds of the nurses it needed to provide safe care, while the midwife-led unit had as few as a third of the preferred number nurses on duty, despite evidence that staff shortages increase the risks of childbirth.

Even the high-risk antenatal ward, where the most vulnerable unborn children receive intensive monitoring, was 50% to 75% short of nurses during some shifts.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...areas-may-hunt

Kizzy why are you worrying about babies when there are terrorists out there running loose? It won't matter if there are enough nurses to safely care for the newborns IF THE HOSPITAL GETS BLOWN TO PIECES IN HOLY FIRE!!

I literally feel sick with worry :/

It's going to be a Tory majority Kizzy... It's honestly not worth getting your hopes up.

orly?.... :smug:

As I said on another thread just now; my gut feeling is still with a Tory majority of roughly the same size as the current one. Though to be fair, that would still be an OK-ish result.

(I should clarify; OK-ish compared to a Tory landslide. :umm2: )

Britain supports Brexit....by voting in a Tory government that will u-turn on their hard stance and give in to the EU and take any deal that's offered?

This very silly thread looks even sillier this morning - it's official.:laugh:

Soft Brexit pls.

I reckon we will get a second referendum

I'd rather a second election than referendum :idc:

Well in the cold light of day i'd have to disagree with the article.I'd say the remain dog has barked just not in the Lib Dems camp.

The idea of a Labour brexit appealed to me, I'm a supporter of nationalisation.

Preach, most Leavers will argue that we should respect democracy but strangely enough it's only when the vote goes their way.

I hope we don't. I'm beyond hoping that people will learn from their mistakes but they do need to pay the price for voting in ignorance.

Sorry Cherie, that won't happen.

EU will crumble if it tries to punish UK for Brexit.
 

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...Peter-Lundgren

There is a lot of support out there from Europe for the U.K. despite the EUs attempt to persuade us otherwise.

Yes because a Swedish MEP speaks for 27 member states

Laughable 'journalism'

I don't think there's going to be any punishing going on.Everyone wants the best for there own interests.Trying to punish the UK might get brownie points the hardline Europhiles but it would only hurt everyone economically.

He isn't the first European MP to defend Britain against the EU. Europe is boiling over with discontent and we will soon see the results of that.

It must be so hard for you coming on here - you know with your oh so superior knowledge of all things politics. I'll try and remember that the next time you cite the Indepentent or the Canary - the standard fodder of those on the left.

Can we see some other examples then please? There are 750 members of the European Parliament, so how many shall we say constitutes 'a lot' of support? A simple majority - 375? A third - 250? Or do we have to go a bit lower?

I don't think I've ever cited The Canary so I'm not sure what that's about. As for The Independent, I read its articles in full knowledge of their political slant and often read other sources to cross-reference its content, as I do with most papers. Again, tabloids are vapid crap and should largely be avoided. Has nothing to do with their political agenda.

It's a very British thing to overestimate our own importance in the world.

We will play ball with what the EU demands of us, this election has guaranteed that by allowing the u-turning Tories retain the most seats. Anybody that voted Tory will inevitably have voted for the poor soft brexit deal we're gonna get with this government.

27 countries are more likely to recover than 1, or if you count the UK countries individually 4.

no theyre not as 25 of them are negative contributors to the eu
i.e. they take out more than they put in
and the burden all falls on the germans and french

There is a reason that up until now we are one of only 3 net contributors to the EU, so while all the 27 members states may have their say it means squat really. The deal will be done with the other 2 net contributors, Germany and France, because at the end of the day, monitory power will determine the outcome. Everything else is noise.

Germany and France cannot afford for the brexit deal to be anything but good for the 3 contributors. So lots of huffing and puffing, but a pretty much guaranteed outcome that will be satisfactory to the UK. How that outcome is then interpreted will be dependent on political stance as it always is. So someone will always find fault.

Indeed,that is a strong point.

Also they remaining as members will assist each other to do so.

The UK will just be another outside trading Nation with the EU, whatever happens in the UK,will neither really benefit that much or hurt in any big way the EU.

The EU negotiators in this have one main focus and duty,which is to ensure the stability of the EU around the remaining EU members and for the attraction of those Countries wanting to join the EU.

It has no real duty to a Nation voluntarily walking away from all its current status with the EU,even after being a Nation that helped form the EU as it is and signed up to all treaties.

Whatever deal the UK now gets is going to be nothing like what it has now,it cannot be,or other EU Nations will see little point in being in the EU at all.

The UK will have to pay some major price and end up the lesser Nation for it.
The UK is not a World leader as to much really,sadly so but it's too late now to be that big Empire it once was seen as.

Anyone who thinks any EU Nation member or the EU negotiators are going to ensure a really good deal for the UK,which would be to the detriment of some or all other EU member Nations, frankly are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Also remember whatever deal finally set out,has to be ratified by every other EU member Nation to be able to be implemented.
Chaos looms and this is why all UK Parties with elected MPs,should all be part of the planning of negotiations too.
We had a National referendum,we should then have a National agreed negotiated deal,not just one done by the Govt.and even less so just possibly the DUP.

You're in cloud cuckoo. ..the eu is bust they're losing one of only 3 net contributors ...we pay in over 8 billion net per annum....25 countries take out only 3 pay in. record unemployment, record debts , record unemployment and we but 4 times more than we supply them ..were theyre biggest market place. if they overcharge us with tariffs we do it back and we buy elsewhere theyd loose 100s of billions ....why don't the left ever do basic arithmetic?

Nope, not crumbling ...we're crumbling

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7798076.html

Britain dug its own grave.

I know for sure I'd rather be in my cloud cuckoo land than yours.
All Nations have problems,working through them together is the more secure way of longer term success,than trying alone.

I think your arithmetic needs looking at,it seems at odds with official statements overall.

Anyone who believes we have highest employment too is also in loud cuckoo land.
If our unemployment figures still contained all the people not in full employment it would be much greater.
All the part time workers,zero hour contract workers and now as with many supermarkets, those taken off 30 hours guaranteed a week workers now placed on only 16 hour a week contracts,more part time again.
As my local ASDA has done to all staff except for supervisors and management.

Reminds me of this scene from the Simpsons.

weve created more new jobs than the rest of europe put together in the past 7 years

Yes there are zero hours but only 900,000+ out of 30 odd million thats a mere 3%.....We have one of the lowest unemployment rates in europe and we wont be saddled with the £8 billion plus EU bill nor their infinite petty rules and regulations such as VAT rises, the sheer expense that makes it impossible to dig our own coal , the failure to agree to put bigger tariffs on cheap illegal chinese steel. I notice too they havent shown their accounts for 20 years? That doesnt bother you either?

Try and do some basic maths

spoken like a true patriot lol