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Firewire 30-10-2017 06:06 AM

Anthony Rapp accuses Kevin Spacey of sexual assault, Spacey apologises then comes out
 
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Hollywood star Kevin Spacey has made an apology after being accused of making a sexual advance toward a child actor.

Anthony Rapp, who was 14, said Spacey invited him to a party and seemed drunk when the alleged incident happened.

Spacey, who was then 26, said: "I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago.

"But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behaviour."

Rapp says he is sharing the story now after the Harvey Weinstein scandal.

The movie mogul has been accused by more than 50 women of a range of allegations ranging from rape to sexual harassment. Mr Weinstein has denied any claims of non-consensual sex.

The accusations have sparked a debate about inappropriate behaviour in the entertainment industry and beyond, and encouraged more people to share their experiences.

In an interview given to BuzzFeed News, the 46-year-old Star Trek: Discovery actor said he was sitting on the edge of a bed after the party - held in Spacey's apartment in 1986 - when Oscar-winning Spacey, now 58, came into the bedroom.

"He picked me up like a groom picks up the bride over the threshold. But I don't, like, squirm away initially, because I'm like, 'What's going on?' And then he lays down on top of me," Rapp said.

"He was trying to seduce me... I was aware that he was trying to get with me sexually."

Rapp said he was able to go to the bathroom before he left.

Responding to the allegation, Spacey said he was "sorry for the feelings [Rapp] describes having carried with him all these years".

He also addressed "stories" about his personal life, saying he had had relationships with both men and women and was now living as a gay man.

"I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behaviour."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41799026

Full story from Anthony Rapp: https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/a...pNB#.kvD9Xv83e

Spacey's response:


Jamie89 30-10-2017 12:11 PM

I find his statement really odd. I'm sorry but surely you don't just forget if you've sexually assaulted a child :umm2: I don't care how many years have passed. And let's say he didn't do it, he's still basically saying that it's something that he can imagine himself doing while drunk, he's not actually saying it didn't happen or wouldn't have happened, just that he can't remember and he's sorry if he did it. That's not a normal response. If you know it's something you wouldn't have done you'd outright deny it. The way it's worded especially at the end makes me wonder if he knows there are other stories that could come out about him and he's trying to limit the damage as much as possible rather than say something now that could expose him as a liar further down the line. The statement's PR - and I wouldn't be surprised if the coming out is intended as a distraction (even though it's no surprise, I always just assumed everyone knew and he knew everyone knew but he didn't like to discuss it publicly).

Niamh. 30-10-2017 12:26 PM

I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

Cherie 30-10-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9675899)
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

agree, I never knew he was gay either.

Shaun 30-10-2017 12:34 PM

It was always kinda known but not said (re: him being gay) but yeah this was a stupid time to come out.

I would say re: Jamie's point that I think it's fairly well-documented that he was also a regular coke user so I don't know if that clouded his judgment/awareness of his actions but that is merely conjecture so I wouldn't really stand on it too solidly... the allegation sounds horrible and, as a big fan of Spacey, it's super disappointing to hear.

UserSince2005 30-10-2017 12:38 PM

Funny we were talking about Kevin the other day.

My friend who works in the thearter scene was recalling a story of him trying to seceduce a famous male actor at a party some years back and when he was rejected he turned to some fat girl to toss him off and told her that he’ll just close his eyes and think of the actor.

How degrading for the poor woman.

He’s well known for his ****.

Jamie89 30-10-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9675899)
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm

I think he's been arrested/cautioned before for 'cottaging' in Hyde Park (and maybe other places I don't know, there's a lot of rumours about him, I just remember a friend telling me about the Hyde Park thing when I moved to London and that it was common knowledge :laugh: ) But yeah it's slyly done. He's seen what happened to Weinstein's career so he's trying a different angle, using the gay thing, maybe he thinks he'd get support from the gay community and Hollywood for coming out and that might offset the accusations somewhat? Kinda sickening if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9675904)
It was always kinda known but not said (re: him being gay) but yeah this was a stupid time to come out.

I would say re: Jamie's point that I think it's fairly well-documented that he was also a regular coke user so I don't know if that clouded his judgment/awareness of his actions but that is merely conjecture so I wouldn't really stand on it too solidly... the allegation sounds horrible and, as a big fan of Spacey, it's super disappointing to hear.

I didn't know about that, yeah I suppose that could account for him not remembering, although there's still the inviting him to the party, inviting him to the hotel room, just generally the whole description of it isn't like a quick grope or something, but more planned, I dunno.

Shaun 30-10-2017 12:55 PM

Oh yeah definitely, it sounds like a face-saving confession. Like "I don't remember it happening but if it happened I'm sorry". Not really an apology.

Jack_ 30-10-2017 01:26 PM

Him being gay was pretty much an open secret a la Louis Walsh, but I remember about a year ago reading Reddit discussions about how he's a notorious predator on set so this doesn't surprise me much

Still disappointing though

LeatherTrumpet 30-10-2017 01:33 PM

He should have come out as black and gay. If you want to cover up being a dirty perv then go big ffs

Locke. 30-10-2017 02:11 PM

It's quite concerning how in his apology it totally brushes over the fact it was a child. I think he has probably taken this opportunity to come out because he knows that more stories about him are coming and he's trying to get ahead of it. But yeah... ****ed up. Very disappointing as he was just in the best film of the year (Baby Driver) and House of Cards is great, not to mention a few classics that he stars in.

Smithy 30-10-2017 02:39 PM



Family guy been knew

Marsh. 30-10-2017 02:47 PM

It's kind of odd that on the one hand he doesn't remember anything happening, yet doesn't deny it or somehow try to defend his character against a pretty serious allegation.

He just offers an "apology" and then shifts focus to "yes, I'm gay" which is worrying for two reasons, 1) he thinks the "revelation" that he is gay to the wider public is the more important or serious piece of information and 2) He's not shocked by the accusation of something he doesn't even remember because it was something he was prone to doing quite often anyway, it's just this specific incident he's fuzzy on.

Despicable piece of sh*t either way.

Josy 30-10-2017 02:49 PM

Quite disgusting the way he tries to brush it off in that statement tbh

Marsh. 30-10-2017 02:50 PM

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"I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor.
:umm2: But not as a human being?

Amy Jade 30-10-2017 02:57 PM

'I'm so sorry if I sexually assaulted you. Can't quite remember lol silly me'

Scum.

arista 09-11-2017 05:11 AM

Kevin Spacey

A Gay man

Written out of USA production Film Directed by Ridley Scott
Christopher Plummer replaces him a re - shooting


Ref: GMBHD itv
Live LA (the Scottish fellow)

arista 09-11-2017 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 9675977)
Quite disgusting the way he tries to brush it off in that statement tbh



Its getting worse day by day



"Shame on you "
the mother of a Lad

arista 09-11-2017 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9675971)


Family guy been knew


Yes Its old news
to those great writers

arista 09-11-2017 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9675899)
I never knew Kevin Spacey was gay but I agree Jamie it sounds like him coming out is like him trying to switch the focus which is awful and if I were a gay man I think id be uncomfortable with that, like it's understandable to sexual harrass a child because he was hiding being gay? Wut? Hmmm


Yes it appears like a Rock Hudson Shocker type
Real news
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Hudson


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Spacey

Vanessa 09-11-2017 07:36 AM

I always had my suspicions about Kevin Spacey. But trying to seduce underage boys crosses the line. 14 is a child :nono: What's going on in Hollywood? Are all the male actors sleaze bags? :omgno:

Vanessa 09-11-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9675924)
Him being gay was pretty much an open secret a la Louis Walsh, but I remember about a year ago reading Reddit discussions about how he's a notorious predator on set so this doesn't surprise me much

Still disappointing though

And he seems to like underage boys :umm2:

James 09-11-2017 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 9686530)
Kevin Spacey

A Gay man

Written out of USA production Film Directed by Ridley Scott
Christopher Plummer replaces him a re - shooting


Ref: GMBHD itv
Live LA (the Scottish fellow)

This is the film he has been removed from.


Kazanne 09-11-2017 08:49 AM

Well he is done for now,i don't think any film producers will touch him.

Niamh. 09-11-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9686611)
Well he is done for now,i don't think any film producers will touch him.

I wouldn't be so sure, Casey Affleck won an Oscar just after admitting to and settling with two women he sexually harassed while making another film


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