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Brillopad 06-12-2017 01:35 PM

Snowflakes - mental problems
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.

Vicky. 06-12-2017 01:42 PM

I think the problem is genuinely that these people feel the need to insert their opinions into everything, but take anyone also asserting their own opinion as some kind of personal attack. So basically..I have a right to speak, but noone can answer back. If you do you are a big meanie :(

And sorry but 'snowflake' is entirely accurate for many of todays youth (and older people, but mainly youth)

Toy Soldier 06-12-2017 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9726928)

And sorry but 'snowflake' is entirely accurate for many of todays youth (and older people, but mainly youth)

This comes back to the age-old issue, though: "Today's Youth" didn't spring up out of the ground like new potatoes. That only happens in Ireland. In the real world, each generation is raised by the last... and everything is a progression. Todays "Snowflakes" are a direct result of the expectations and entitlements of the post-war generations.

Vicky. 06-12-2017 01:52 PM

I don't think its how they were raised. I think its how Universities and such have gone in recent times. Yes some of the entitlement may come from how they were raised..but it seems to be once they hit Uni that they 'become' special snowflakes who cannot be criticized. I find the idea of 'safe spaces' in Unis to be ridiculous. Uni is meant to be where you learn about how the real world is, not where you cocoon yourself in among like minded people and thus never be criticized ever. Echo chambers are not good, and should not be encouraged.

Vicky. 06-12-2017 01:53 PM

My brother is currently at Uni and says its bloody ridiculous how so many behave. 'Oppression olympics' is used fairly often when he is ranting about stuff. I remember Unis to be somewhere where your opinions were regularly challenged, and this is good no? Now its...omg X has an opinion that I disagree with 'bigot!' *cry* 'where is my safe space'

Shaun 06-12-2017 01:57 PM

Any other wild generalisations Vicky :laugh:

Kizzy 06-12-2017 02:01 PM

I would say it's not an affliction of 'snowflakes' but those also who use those terms to describe others.

Have you tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of 'snowflake'! 'unpartriotic'! ' PC brigade'! ' leftie'!

No wonder it drives people mad, those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.

Vicky. 06-12-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Carole of the Bells (Post 9726951)
Any other wild generalisations Vicky :laugh:

No thats all for today :laugh:

Obviously not all uni students are like that...indeed, my brother is not, nor are many of his friends who find it all just stupid. But apparently it is a significant minority (and a very loud group)

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Santa (Post 9726939)
This comes back to the age-old issue, though: "Today's Youth" didn't spring up out of the ground like new potatoes. That only happens in Ireland. In the real world, each generation is raised by the last... and everything is a progression. Todays "Snowflakes" are a direct result of the expectations and entitlements of the post-war generations.

I think that’s a cop-out. It sounds like the old adage blame the mother whenever a child has problems.

Peer pressure is huge and once kids get to a certain age often takes over from parental influence. Youngsters are renowned for following the crowd and taking on board the opinions of others around them as fitting in is so important at that age. I think they should be allowed and expected to take responibility for their own decisions and actions, including any consequences.

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9726960)
I would say it's not an affliction of 'snowflakes' but those also who use those terms to describe others.

Have you tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of 'snowflake'! 'unpartriotic'! ' PC brigade'! ' leftie'!

No wonder it drives people mad, those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.

Have you ever tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of ‘racist, bigot, ignorant’. It works exactly he same way. No wonder it drives people mad, as those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9726963)
No thats all for today :laugh:

Obviously not all uni students are like that...indeed, my brother is not, nor are many of his friends who find it all just stupid. But apparently it is a significant minority (and a very loud group)

Too damn loud - then they complain and cry when there is some comeback from that.

Maybe their youth and nativity is all too apparent by how immaturely they deal with criticism and different opinions and maybe until they can handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought.

Kizzy 06-12-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9726979)
Too damn loud - then they complain and cry when there is some comeback from that.

Maybe their youth and nativity is all too apparent by how immaturely they deal with criticism and maybe until they can handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought.

Maybe your old age and senility is all to apparent by how rigidly they deal with criticism and maybe they can't handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought

Kizzy 06-12-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9726971)
Have you ever tried to counter an opinion on anyone on an issue and met a wall of ‘racist, bigot, ignorant’. It works exactly he same way. No wonder it drives people mad, as those terms are specifically designed to shut down debate.

Yes except those accusations have a meaning ... if you make a statement that can be described as racist then that is a direct response, it has meaning.

If I were to be asked what is a racist sentence I could give you one... I could not give you a 'left' sentence... as it makes no sense whatsoever...look,

'I think there should be better provisions for schools!'

See, that's an example of left but there is no issue with that statement is there?

arista 06-12-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9726924)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.



They must Laugh it off...................


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9726988)
Yes except those accusations have a meaning ... if you make a statement that can be described as racist then that is a direct response, it has meaning.

If I were to be asked what is a racist sentence I could give you one... I could not give you a 'left' sentence... as it makes no sense whatsoever...look,

'I think there should be better provisions for schools!'

See, that's an example of left but there is no issue with that statement is there?

Left would be socialist, anticapitalist, someone who sometimes defends the undefendable or fails to allow people the dignity of taking responsibility for their own actions. Left and right have many meanings often based on opinion and interpretation. Not difficult.

The Slim Reaper 06-12-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9726995)
Left would be socialist, anticapitalist, someone who sometimes defends the undefendable or fails to allow people the dignity of taking responsibility for their own actions. Left and right have many meanings often based on opinion and interpretation. Not difficult.

https://media.giphy.com/media/NlR0RF1v972Mw/source.gif

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9726985)
Maybe your old age and senility is all to apparent by how rigidly they deal with criticism and maybe they can't handle it they should keep their opinions to themselves. Just a thought

There is a lot to be said for life experience - you should understand that,

jet 06-12-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9726942)
I don't think its how they were raised. I think its how Universities and such have gone in recent times. Yes some of the entitlement may come from how they were raised..but it seems to be once they hit Uni that they 'become' special snowflakes who cannot be criticized. I find the idea of 'safe spaces' in Unis to be ridiculous. Uni is meant to be where you learn about how the real world is, not where you cocoon yourself in among like minded people and thus never be criticized ever. Echo chambers are not good, and should not be encouraged.

In a nutshell. Who could argue with that?

Kizzy 06-12-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9727008)
There is a lot to be said for life experience - you should understand that,

No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.

Brillopad 06-12-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9727026)
No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.

Who are you calling uneducated? I went to uni is that a clue?

jet 06-12-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christmas treeza (Post 9727026)
No there isn't... It depends on many factors being old does not make you wise, being wise makes you wise, being educated makes you wise.... if that means that young educated wise people are annoying old, ignorant uneducated people then I'm sorry they have that right.

Being educated doesn't make you wise, it makes you informed. It's what you do with that information and how you interpret it that matters...and
there is no substitute for life experience, you have a lot to learn Kizzy.

Oliver_W 06-12-2017 03:13 PM

Calling people "snowflakes" doesn't achieve anything, it's just as daft as when they call everyone racist/sexist/whatever whilst refusing to listen to opposing views. Most people grow out of being what you might call a "snowflake" when they get a job and general responsibilities, which is why I find it concerning to see 30/40+ year old SJWs...

Withano 06-12-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9726924)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-young-people/

Apparently being called snowflakes damages the health of young people.

Maybe some suitable medicine would be some advice that it isn’t Advisable to dish it out if you can’t take it.

Problem solved.

Being snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake is the snowflakiest thing I've ever seen in my life. Kudos Brillo.

Brillopad 06-12-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9727097)
Being snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake is the snowflakiest thing I've ever seen in my life. Kudos Brillo.

Maybe getting snowflakey about me apparently getting snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake would Trump it. Even better would be the actual snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake taking some responsibility I say!

Withano 06-12-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9727110)
Maybe getting snowflakey about me apparently getting snowflakey about a snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake would Trump it. Even better would be the actual snowflake not wanting to be called a snowflake taking some responsibility I say!

I'm not sure anybody is following your definition of snowflake anymore. You can't just say it when someone responds to you in a pretty unenthused and calm manner, snowflake.


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