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Morgan. 04-01-2018 04:16 PM

An unpopular opinion ...
 
This isnt the unpopular opinion, but the context. I'll get to the opinion later. Stephen Bear was an atrocious person who enjoyed seeing other people riled up and angry. He enjoyed intimidating people. And when I saw him on Celebs Go Dating he enjoyed standing up young girls before a date and telling the waiter to let them know he had to leave because he left the chicken in the oven, before running out the back door.

Now here is the unpopular opinion. It took me a very long time to reach this conclusion due to how much I despise the creature - but Stephen Bear was actually a good housemate (:worry:). For the little money he was payed, he managed to create Drama and entertainment (if you can call it that) in almost every single Highlights Show, and got the nation talking. Still doesn't change how much I hated him, but he was a good housemate.

Now whilst I'm here and have your attention, a question. Would Stephen Bear have received as much hate as he did on TiBB if he was female? Because I certainly think he would have had a few more fans on her if he was female.

And with that; discuss.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 04-01-2018 04:18 PM

he wasn’t a good housemate though bc that entire series revolved around him acting like an absolute dickhead and it got really exhausting really quickly

Epic. 04-01-2018 04:20 PM

No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

RileyH 04-01-2018 04:21 PM

No, that's stupid

He wasn't a good housemate and deserved less than what he got. Utter cunt

Vicky. 04-01-2018 04:21 PM

Bear was an amazing housemate :laugh: I genuinely cannot understand how anyone can think differently on this. Though I know they do...just cannot get in that mindset :laugh:

Ant. 04-01-2018 04:21 PM

What Scott, Epic, and RileyH said

My opinions can never be as well articulated or better put across as Epic's ranking of him did

Morgan. 04-01-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 9768230)
No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

RileyH 04-01-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768253)
There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

I don't like either
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Jason. 04-01-2018 04:28 PM

This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 04-01-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9768257)
This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker::joker::joker:

Morgan. 04-01-2018 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 9768230)
No he absolutely wouldn't, I certainly wouldn't approve of liking a woman who enjoys staring people down and laughing at their misfortune or screaming in their face or overusing tired and awful phrases to goad people, or how they'd do horribly harmful childlike humor to transparently appeal to the lowest common denominator, not to mention painfully cringe, unfunny and boring in repeated bullying for no reason. And just because you 'provide talking points' shouldn't automatically mean you're a great housemate. You being a great housemate is what makes you a great housemate. Getting people talking shouldn't be the reason. I hate the whole theory that 'If it was a female TiBB would be loving them' because there's no actual evidence or substance behind it. When you're this level of vile, this level of intolerable aggression, this level of anti-social disdain towards everyone you're living with, gender is irrelevant

Also I think getting the nation talking does make a good housemate because it just proves that peop,e are getting invested in the show. If no one is talking about the show it just shows it's boring.

I've had to look behind him as a person for his, scrap it, and take him as a housemate.
- provided talking points
- created many different storylines; the clique of Marnie, Lewis and Bear, Renee and their conflict, Saira and their conflict, Heavy D and their on-off friendship, Chloe and their relationship
- was a prominent character in every Highlights Show
- entertained despite the size of the paycheck

Now if you removed names from that and blanked Bear from your mind, that would sum up a great housemate.

RichardG 04-01-2018 04:32 PM

nothing entertaining about bear

he was an awful housemate

Vanessa 04-01-2018 04:32 PM

He was a brilliant housemate , and very funny :laugh:

Ant. 04-01-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768253)
There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

This is coming from someone who is way more team Nicola than Kim and someone who took issue with quite a lot of what Kim said, but the difference is Kim was never malicious in what she said. She was just mistaken and defensive. We saw her break down and struggle and while it doesn't excuse what she said, when you put it in context to how Bear acted out and stood girls up and isolated people for no reason, it becomes clear the comparison of Kim and Bear is bullcrap

Morgan. 04-01-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9768257)
This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

I wouldn't have voted for Bear anyway, I hated him, but when you look at their qualities as housemate then he was a good one.

Morgan. 04-01-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9768273)
He was a brilliant housemate , and very funny :laugh:

He was NOT funny.

Ross. 04-01-2018 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9768257)
This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker::joker:

Kazanne 04-01-2018 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768216)
This isnt the unpopular opinion, but the context. I'll get to the opinion later. Stephen Bear was an atrocious person who enjoyed seeing other people riled up and angry. He enjoyed intimidating people. And when I saw him on Celebs Go Dating he enjoyed standing up young girls before a date and telling the waiter to let them know he had to leave because he left the chicken in the oven, before running out the back door.

Now here is the unpopular opinion. It took me a very long time to reach this conclusion due to how much I despise the creature - but Stephen Bear was actually a good housemate (:worry:). For the little money he was payed, he managed to create Drama and entertainment (if you can call it that) in almost every single Highlights Show, and got the nation talking. Still doesn't change how much I hated him, but he was a good housemate.

Now whilst I'm here and have your attention, a question. Would Stephen Bear have received as much hate as he did on TiBB if he was female? Because I certainly think he would have had a few more fans on her if he was female.

And with that; discuss.


Bear was missing a few vital ingredients for Tibb to like him,no T&A, some don't seem to like men they want them out before they get in,lol

Ant. 04-01-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768268)
Also I think getting the nation talking does make a good housemate because it just proves that peop,e are getting invested in the show. If no one is talking about the show it just shows it's boring.

I've had to look behind him as a person for his, scrap it, and take him as a housemate.
- provided talking points
- created many different storylines; the clique of Marnie, Lewis and Bear, Renee and their conflict, Saira and their conflict, Heavy D and their on-off friendship, Chloe and their relationship
- was a prominent character in every Highlights Show
- entertained despite the size of the paycheck

Now if you removed names from that and blanked Bear from your mind, that would sum up a great housemate.

Well no because you're dumbing it down. He provided many different storylines, yes, but were they entertaining? Besides Renee and his conflict, no. The Saira and clique conflict was NOT entertaining and not really a storyline - it was bullying.
Also, being a prominent character in a highlights show doesn't make him 'good'. He overshadowed many other characters, and while that would be somewhat bearable if he made for good television, he didn't, so it's not exactly a good point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 9768257)
This is why 16 year old's shouldn't vote.

:joker:

Marsh. 04-01-2018 04:36 PM

He made me actually switch off the show and I never watched the remainder of the series.

So a good housemate he was not as he actually made me switch off.

Epic. 04-01-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768253)
There were times when Kim Woodburn was vile and really quite horrible to some of her housemates. Yes, a lot wasn't as exhausting or as horrible as Bear but she still said some nasty stuff yet is hailed as a 'legend', 'icon' and other like terms on TiBB.

That's not the point. Kim isn't liked because she 'provides talking points' or 'is quite horrible to some of her housemates.' People liked her because she was hilarious in how she acted, her paranoia that she was against the mafia, her argumentative style, the fact that she was an elderly person with this infantile reaction to things like comparing herself to Jesus Christ.

I can't see how 'providing talking points' makes you a good housemate. If we're going by that logic, you may as well call Jack Tweed, Danielle Lloyd, and Jo O'Meara 'good housemates' simply for them providing talking points with CBB5. As I've echoed already what I care about is the behavior, and how it ruined thirty hours of television. And the gender thing you mentioned actually really annoys me because it's simply a consistently untrue theory. Take Pete Burns for example, who was incredibly hurtful when he wanted to be and highly insultive. But he's hailed as a legend or icon like Kim is because of the sharp wit in how he talks, his words, his clever actions, etc. and that's one of the many reasons people liked her as well. There's no wit behind what this disgusting goblin monster called 'Bear' did. He's a ****ing scoundrel and 'providing talking points' is irrelevant when you're a human ****.

Ant. 04-01-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 9768275)
I wouldn't have voted for Bear anyway, I hated him, but when you look at their qualities as housemate then he was a good one.

babes I think he meant for like, the General Election, but sure

Alf 04-01-2018 04:37 PM

I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

Epic. 04-01-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9768286)
Bear was missing a few vital ingredients for Tibb to like him,no T&A, some don't seem to like men they want them out before they get in,lol

Pete ****ing Burns

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 04-01-2018 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9768295)
I disliked the girl who spat in his food far more. Bear didn't stoop to anything as digusting as that.

queen!


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