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*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 05:56 PM

I don't like Dapper's character BUT
 
Not a fan of him, but Dapper is a CHARACTER.

If Sacha Baron Cohen went in, would he get this much stick? "If you are both laughing it's not rape", calling black people "chocolate face", " I arrived in America's airport with clothings, US dollars, and a jar of gypsy tears to protect me from AIDS" etc... that's three of like a thousand comments made in Ali G, Borat and Bruno. Those are characters. Sacha is not like that. But I wonder if he would be hated? I doubt it, those films were loved.

We have found that these types of people have an audience, Jim Davidson, Bernard Manning and Frankie Boyle being three of them.

Borat made $261m in Box Office and hundreds of million on DVD... should all those watching be disgusted with themselves?

The only problem is that a lot of people were under the impression that Dapper was actually real, and Daniel was liek that too... the wider public know Sacha is different to his characters, same with Leigh Francis regarding Keith Lemon.

I personally never really liked Sacha's stuff but i still watch Keith.

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:00 PM

I don’t believe he was a character :shrug:

It was a way for him to excuse his actions and since he’s essentially been scrapped, he’s probably matured

Vanessa 06-01-2018 06:01 PM

So far he seems perfectly fine.

*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774373)
I don’t believe he was a character :shrug:

It was a way for him to excuse his actions and since he’s essentially been scrapped, he’s probably matured

He has said it online multiple times though.

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9774380)
So far he seems perfectly fine.

We’ve seen 5 minutes worth

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 9774381)
He has said it online multiple times though.

So? He would do lol

Vanessa 06-01-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774382)
We’ve seen 5 minutes worth

I know, I'm going by first impressions. He seems really normal to me?

*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774384)
So? He would do lol

Does this mean we can assume that Sacha was also lying and is really a sexist, racist, homophobic and chauvinistic pig? You know if we are assuming they arew lying :hehe:

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:04 PM

It’d be like those people who “touch hands of strangers in public” getting into trouble and then trying to claim is was all a character they’d made up.

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 9774391)
Does this mean we can assume that Sacha was also lying and is really a sexist, racist, homophobic and chauvinistic pig? You know if we are assuming they arew lying :hehe:

It’s really not the same? Steve Macfadden isn’t really Phil Mitchell, is he?

*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774399)
It’s really not the same? Steve Macfadden isn’t really Phil Mitchell, is he?

But how do you ACTUALLY know? For all we know Steve really is Phil?

y.winter 06-01-2018 06:06 PM

I give him the benefit of doubt.
It looks like he has good intentions.

BBUK-Fan 06-01-2018 06:06 PM

Where was the character? He doesn't dress or look different as himself to Dapper Laughs. Just a stage name for him to get away with stuff and blame it on the "character"

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BBUK-Fan (Post 9774406)
Where was the character? He doesn't dress or look different as himself to Dapper Laughs. Just a stage name for him to get away with stuff and blame it on the "character"

This is exactly how I view it. He went from making jokey, stupid videos on Facebook and exploded.

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 9774403)
But how do you ACTUALLY know? For all we know Steve really is Phil?

Well, Steve isn’t Phil

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:09 PM

If it was all in character and in jest then his career wouldn’t have taken a nose dive. He told a very poor & disgusting joke (which wasn’t even funny).

*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774413)
Well, Steve isn’t Phil

But how do you know, Steve doesn't have EXACTLY the same views as Phil? Just like how do we know SACHA is being truthful in saying his other stuff are CHARACTERS. For all we know he is also playing us ;)

Either way, I know Daniel is a real person as i have met him, and in the (only) 15 mins i was around, he was far from sexist and this was back in 2010 (my friend managed him).

He could have faked being nice, but he was there to promote himself.

*mazedsalv** 06-01-2018 06:13 PM

I still can't stand his character. But he seemed OK as Daniel.

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2018 06:15 PM

Ive never heard of him,so will judge him on how he is in the house

Jake. 06-01-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 9774425)
But how do you know, Steve doesn't have EXACTLY the same views as Phil? Just like how do we know SACHA is being truthful in saying his other stuff are CHARACTERS. For all we know he is also playing us ;)

Either way, I know Daniel is a real person as i have met him, and in the (only) 15 mins i was around, he was far from sexist and this was back in 2010 (my friend managed him).

He could have faked being nice, but he was there to promote himself.

I don’t know but neither are in CBB so I don’t care I guess :joker:

I fully understand that he isn’t running around like Dapper being rude 24/7, but I don’t think that excuses his behaviour or attitude

armand.kay 06-01-2018 07:14 PM

Sacha Baron Cohen's characters are parody's when you watch his movies you're laughing at his characters while dapper laughs is presented more as a relatable lads lad also before the drama he never really made any attempt distinguish himself from his character.

LeatherTrumpet 06-01-2018 07:15 PM

So far he has been lovely so lets just judge as we find.

JerseyWins 06-01-2018 07:18 PM

Don't know of any details of his past but he came across kinda sleazy to me in the VT & intro interview.

But on a related note to this thread, Borat & The Dictator are absolutely hilarious movies. :clap1: And I'd probably stan Sacha in the BB house.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 06-01-2018 07:19 PM

josy: you have received an infraction for telling a forum member to drown in quicksand

me: that was my character!!!

Babayaro. 06-01-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9774373)
I don’t believe he was a character :shrug:

It was a way for him to excuse his actions and since he’s essentially been scrapped, he’s probably matured

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