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arista 17-04-2018 12:06 PM

PM May apologises for Windrush immigration row
 
Home Office Error
trying to deport to Jamaica and other nations
the grown children of the parents that were
brought to work in the GB back in the 1950's , 1960's.
Due to lack of paperwork.



https://news.sky.com/story/live-home...tions-11334509

"Amber Rudd 'should consider her position'
Labour's David Lammy has tweeted about a number of cases brought to the attention of his office since the Windrush row emerged.
He said the mother of 35-year-old Mozi Haynes got in touch to say her son was due to be deported after two failed applications to stay."


Anthony Bryon was on the Daily Politics , saved just in time.
https://news.sky.com/story/windrush-...he-uk-11334190

Twosugars 17-04-2018 12:08 PM

Home Office lost their paperwork, is that right?
Jesus wept

arista 17-04-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9962357)
Home Office lost their paperwork, is that right?
Jesus wept



In some cases
the parents (who arrived back in 1960's)
never got Passports for
their kids

A passport would have canceled this.

Twosugars 17-04-2018 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9962359)
In some cases
the parents (who arrived back in 1960's)
never got Passports for
their kids

A passport would have canceled this.

passports are not compulsory

arista 17-04-2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9962360)
passports are not compulsory


Of Course
Sadly there are reports that some citizens
have been deported , in error , already.


A Great Deal to correct

Twosugars 17-04-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 9962461)
Of Course
Sadly there are reports that some citizens
have been deported , in error , already.


A Great Deal to correct

can you imagine if this incompetence carries on when EU citizens start registering for settled status? It's gonna be mayhem.

arista 17-04-2018 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9962513)
can you imagine if this incompetence carries on when EU citizens start registering for settled status? It's gonna be mayhem.


Maybe due to this big feck up
EU citizens should be OK.

arista 18-04-2018 11:54 AM

At PMQ's
the PM told the Labour Leader
it was in 2009 that New Labour
was instructed to destroy the Windrush Landing Cards
Reports they were actually done in 2010.

BBC2HD D.P and SkyNewsHD

jet 18-04-2018 04:45 PM

At PMQ's Corbyn wasn't prepared for Theresa May's bombshell about the landing cards.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8310466.html

:joker:

parmnion 18-04-2018 05:03 PM

I would have walked out.

Toy Soldier 18-04-2018 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 9963454)
At PMQ's Corbyn wasn't prepared for Theresa May's bombshell about the landing cards.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8310466.html

:joker:

1) Her actual physical excitement / glee about getting in her "zinger" is just... sad. Just another confirmation of our pathetic, playground-parliament.

2) It's already been confirmed that she was either misinformed, or straight up lying... it wasn't 2009 at all :umm2:.

jet 18-04-2018 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9963490)
1) Her actual physical excitement / glee about getting in her "zinger" is just... sad. Just another confirmation of our pathetic, playground-parliament.

2) It's already been confirmed that she was either misinformed, or straight up lying... it wasn't 2009 at all :umm2:.

The decision to destroy the cards was made in 2009, and signed off by border officials. It was implemented in 2010 under the Tories. No ministers were involved.
Quote:

But May chose her words carefully: she talked of the decision being made “under” Labour rather than “by” Labour, which is technically true, even though she conveyed an impression that things were otherwise. So she lives to fight another day.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...lie-parliament

Toy Soldier 18-04-2018 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 9963519)
The decision to destroy the cards was made in 2009, and signed off by border officials. It was implemented in 2010 under the Tories. No ministers were involved.


https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...lie-parliament

She was "economical with the truth" on a technicality. Calling a spade a spade; it was a deliberate mistruth... And she leapt out of her seat like a giddy 5 year old to bark it, like she had just come up with "OMG the best comeback ever".

As the article you've just liked says;

"Choosing your words so you do not lie but do not convey the truth is not a resigning offence: but it isn’t good for public discourse or constitutional safeguards either."

GiRTh 24-06-2018 09:35 AM

Windrush anniversary celebrated at Westminster Abbey
Quote:


Windrush generation members and their families were invited to the Westminster Abbey service
More than 2,000 people attended a thanksgiving service marking 70 years since the arrival of Caribbean migrants on the Empire Windrush ship to the UK.

Hymns including Amazing Grace were played on steel drums as guests, including families of the Windrush generation, entered Westminster Abbey.

The migrants were among the first to be recruited to rebuild post-war Britain.

But there continues to be concern over a scandal which saw some of the generation wrongly face deportation.

As the music played in the abbey, Baroness Floella Benjamin was applauded as she briefly danced in the nave.

The Liberal Democrat peer and patron of the Windrush Foundation said that she felt "joy", adding: "I was floating, like a bird, free."

Prime Minister Theresa May, Home Secretary Sajid Javid and London Mayor Sadiq Khan attended the service, along with shadow home secretary Diane Abbott.

Among the guests was Baroness Doreen Lawrence, mother of murdered black teenager Stephen.

Under the warm June sun the guests, more than 2,000 of them, queued outside the abbey ahead of the service.

They shared stories with each other. They wanted to celebrate.

Many of them were families of the Windrush generation.

Karen Gibson's mother came to Britain from Guyana in 1962.

She said her mother heard stories of "gold on the streets" of the UK.

There was a heart-warming moment too.

A handshake between two men, in their nineties, who unknown to each other, had both been on the Empire Windrush ship 70 years ago.

At the service, a short drama telling the story of how Caribbean migrants were invited to "The Motherland" to help rebuild post-war Britain was performed by actors.

Addressing the congregation, the Reverend Canon Joel Edwards said: "Settling down hasn't been plain sailing.

"The children of Windrush have experienced over-representation in Britain's prisons and mental health institutions. Knife crimes.

"Underachievement in education and the job market. Settlement has meant racism, sometimes too much policing and not enough protection. And Stephen Lawrence."

But he added: "Windrush resilience arises, supremely."

The Dean of Westminster (right) wore a robe decorated with a photo montage of aspects of black history in Britain
He described the Windrush as having "gifted" Britain with leaders in the worlds of politics, business, education, music and sport and acknowledged the influence of the Caribbean on British cuisine, including "rice and peas, jerk chicken and Levi Roots sauce in our supermarkets".

Mr Edwards also referenced the scandal that has seen some Windrush members wrongly face deportation.

He said: "In recent months the word 'Windrush' has evoked a great deal of emotion and even anger across our political landscape. In this service of thanksgiving, Windrush means more than migration."

The service included the first performance of a specially composed anthem entitled Psalm To Windrush: For The Brave And Ingenious.

Windrush generation 'deserve medals'
The Windrush spark that never died
'The British Empire is nothing to be proud of'
The Very Rev John Hall, Dean of Westminster, wore a robe decorated with a photo montage of aspects of black history in Britain since the arrival of Windrush.

John Richards, 92, who came to Britain on the Windrush aged 21, said the service was "great".

"It brings back memories, yes, but I'm too old for the emotion," he said.

Alford Gardner, a member of the Windrush generation, has lived in Leeds most of his life, but said that was not his intention when he arrived.

The 92-year-old said: "The plan was to come to England, get a good job, work for about five years, go back... but it wasn't to be.

"Within five years I had started a family and married. I had bought me house, working hard and settled down."

Mr Khan said it was a "moving" service in honour of a generation that "contributes so much to our capital".



But Glenda Ceasar, who was born in Dominica in the 1960s, said she never got a British passport and lost her job recently because she could not prove her legal status.

She said: "So many years down the line... we're faced with this.

"The ship to me, the Windrush, it seems as if it was... we were just slaves being brought over here to be punished later on in life. That's the way that I feel."

Nearly 500 Caribbean migrants from countries including Jamaica, Bermuda and Trinidad exited the Windrush on 22 June 1948 when it docked at Tilbury in Essex.

They had applied to job adverts after World War II with the hope of finding long-term employment in the UK, having gained a type of citizenship under the British Nationality Act of 1948

What was life like for first-generation Windrush migrants?

The Westminster Abbey service commemorates the contribution the migrants and their families have made to the UK.

Meanwhile, a celebration of Caribbean culture marked the anniversary at Tilbury Docks.

The government has also announced Baroness Benjamin is to lead a commemoration committee overseeing the creation of a "fitting legacy" to the Windrush generation.

A statue celebrating their achievements is among the ideas for the permanent tribute.

Nearly 500 Caribbean immigrants were on the Empire Windrush when it arrived 70 years ago
Baroness Benjamin, a former children's television presenter and Lib Dem peer, was born in Trinidad but emigrated to the UK with her family in 1960.

She said: "This a significant step in recognising the contribution made to Britain by Caribbean people and this committee will make sure the work and sacrifices of the Windrush pioneers will live on in the hearts and minds of future generations."

Three Windrush generation migrants
The right to remain in the UK for Commonwealth migrants who arrived before 1973 was supposed to be legally guaranteed.

But it emerged this year that some migrants from the Windrush generation - many of them who arrived as children - had faced deportation.

They were being refused healthcare and access to jobs because they did not have the paperwork to prove their status following a tightening of immigration rules in 2014.

The government has since apologised for the crisis and says a dedicated taskforce has now provided documentation to over 2,000 people demonstrating their right to live in the UK.

Earlier this week, the government announced an annual Windrush Day would take place.

Windrush anniversary celebrated at Westminster Abbey

Excellent gesture. We had a similar celebration in my local area.:clap1:

jaxie 24-06-2018 10:35 AM

As they should be apologized to and compensated where the situation successive government's put them in has caused hardship.

Brillopad 24-06-2018 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9962360)
passports are not compulsory

They are in this case - it’s proof of citizenship and anyone with any sense would realise that. Could have avoided a world of pain for themselves and their children if they had made the effort.

Twosugars 24-06-2018 11:03 AM

Yes Brillo, you blame them!
It's always immigrants at fault in your world

Tom4784 24-06-2018 11:08 AM

It's a disgraceful situation and apologising is not enough, they need to ensure that something like this can't happen again.

GoldHeart 24-06-2018 11:10 AM

Certain attitudes to the whole thing is definitely childish and surreal:shocked:

Theresa May is corrupted AF , it's disgusting what she did .
She was called out for her BS when all this became public knowledge,but now we're hearing less & less about the windrush scandal and more and more people were still wrongly being deported and being treated like they don't matter.

It kept getting swept under the carpet,and come next general election May will still get in and still be PM . I think the government will stay the same but the faces may change e.g when Cameron resigned :bored: .

GiRTh 24-06-2018 11:45 AM

PM attends celebration service to mark Windrush generation 70th anniversary

Dont know how she's got the nerve TBH

Kizzy 24-06-2018 12:03 PM

I thought that when I saw her cringing and grimacing into the abbey... I half expected her to turn to ash :hehe:

GiRTh 24-06-2018 12:06 PM

She looks more than a little unconformable, and quite right too IMO


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