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Epic. 08-09-2018 09:51 PM

Hardeep vs Sally: Who was in the right?
 
Poll incoming

Denver 08-09-2018 09:51 PM

Hardeep

Rufus 08-09-2018 09:53 PM

Honestly I'm neutral about it, both of them extremely overreacted.

smudgie 08-09-2018 09:54 PM

Both of them.
Sally shouldn't have been so insensitive, and Hardeep should have not walked away.

poppsywoppsy 08-09-2018 10:00 PM

Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.

Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.

Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.

BBDodge 08-09-2018 10:01 PM

Sally's comment WAS borderline racist. She should have apologised for being insensitive.

She's a bit dim.

Denver 08-09-2018 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10212272)
Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.

Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.

Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.

So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?

poppsywoppsy 08-09-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10212280)
So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?

She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.

Denver 08-09-2018 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10212294)
She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racistt card was played.

She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well

RileyH 08-09-2018 10:06 PM

Sally obvs

Robodog 08-09-2018 10:07 PM

Let's flip it:

Imagine they were acting out a 'holiday beach' scene instead and Sally told Gabby 'you look too pale for the part, stick some fake tan on'

It's no more racist than that.

Jack_ 08-09-2018 10:09 PM

Hardeep

She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question :skull:

poppsywoppsy 08-09-2018 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10212298)
She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well

Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.

All it needed was a reasoned explanation.

tiger_greengrass 08-09-2018 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10212308)
Hardeep

She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question :skull:

Context matters.

Denver 08-09-2018 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10212316)
Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.

All it needed was a reasoned explanation.

If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment

Strictly Jake 08-09-2018 10:28 PM

Only watched first section so far but

Sally did say you look to brown

But she went ott when they sat round the table

And maybe hardeep tried to stir it a bit further so...

joeysteele 08-09-2018 10:29 PM

Both for me.
She wasn't being racist at all but perhaps a little insensitive.
They know Hardeep has a thing re race, and is sensitive to it.

If he was expected to think on all he says then that has to apply to all of them too.

chuff me dizzy 08-09-2018 10:30 PM

Hardeep was right, Sally is an age 60+ woman she knew fine well what a turban was, she said what she said to either upset Hardeep or to make him kick off

Morgan. 08-09-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10212301)
Sally obvs

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chuff me dizzy 08-09-2018 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10212294)
She was unaware it was religious clothing.

He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.

No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs

poppsywoppsy 08-09-2018 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=Adam.;10212341]If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment[/QUOTE

It sounds as if she didn't know or she would have said the correct words. It was said in the heat of the moment and it was clear she viewed it as a scarf.

How would anyone feel when they have to watch their every word because someone was just waiting to catch them out. As Sally said, it was like walking on glass.

Hardeep has the problem, as Kirstie told him and to his credit he agreed.

JoshBB 08-09-2018 10:35 PM

Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

chuff me dizzy 08-09-2018 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10212424)
Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

And not a tear in sight

Jase. 08-09-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10212424)
Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off

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poppsywoppsy 08-09-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10212404)
No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs

Even if she did, which I don't believe, she wasn't being malicious at all, just throwing out suggestions for the roleplay.

Thoughtless, silly, but not racist, but didn't he jump on it. Even he said he shouldn't have.


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