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reece(: 23-03-2019 06:02 PM
Transgender woman demanding apology from rail service for being called "sir"
 
Youtube video

arista 23-03-2019 06:11 PM
"Sir"


I am a Lady.................


Youtube video

Jordan. 23-03-2019 06:36 PM
IT IS MA'AM

Alf 23-03-2019 06:47 PM
"Went to a fancy dress party and something clicked"

I don't blame him, it's fooking horrible being a man today. I'm thinking about changing sex myself, just for the perks.

TomC 23-03-2019 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10485395)
"Went to a fancy dress party and something clicked"

I don't blame him, it's fooking horrible being a man today. I'm thinking about changing sex myself, just for the perks.
:rolleyes:

Oliver_W 23-03-2019 06:51 PM
Whether or not you "can tell" is she biologically male, it's obvious for her hair, makeup, and clothing she identifies as a woman. Misgendering is a crappy thing to do, and while I don't believe it should ever be a legal matter, I hope the train sends her an apology letter, and it would be nice if they included a return journey of her choice.

Spoiler:

It's been a while since I worked in retail but I do remember you "glaze over" and don't really notice what people look like, so in the second case I'd give the guard the benefit of the doubt that he was in autopilot and responded purely to the voice and ticket

Amy Jade 23-03-2019 07:05 PM
I kinda understand the guard a bit. When I worked in Asda and I was serving one person after the next I could sometimes misgender by total accident

Amy Jade 23-03-2019 07:19 PM
Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.

I fully support anyone's choice of course but she still has a very deep voice and a quite masculine face - I can totally understand how she could be misgendered just from a glimpse. Seems to be about money.

Tony Montana 23-03-2019 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10485410)
Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.

I fully support anyone's choice of course but she still has a very deep voice and a quite masculine face - I can totally understand how she could be misgendered just from a glimpse. Seems to be about money.
Exactly! She's got a deep ****ing voice for **** sake.

If blindfolded and you heard her voice, I guarantee the majority of people would think that's a man.

reece(: 23-03-2019 07:45 PM
Youtube video

Oliver_W 23-03-2019 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10485427)
I thought this was on old video until they brought up the "gender fluid" nonsense in relation to Sam Smith, I'm sure India's discussed misgendering on GBB before...

Alf 23-03-2019 08:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10485432)
I thought this was on old video until they brought up the "gender fluid" nonsense in relation to Sam Smith, I'm sure India's discussed misgendering on GBB before...
That's how she earns her money.

Toy Soldier 23-03-2019 08:01 PM
As always it comes down to intent; if it's a genuine mistake or misunderstanding that's one thing. If it's being done deliberately or in a pointed way then that's another matter.

Marsh. 23-03-2019 09:54 PM
Even non-trans people get mis-gendered from time to time. It happens.

I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once (:umm2:) I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.

RileyH 23-03-2019 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10485550)
I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once (:umm2:)
omg :laugh2:

Marsh. 23-03-2019 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10485427)
Not the banana analogy. :skull:

Alf 23-03-2019 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10485550)
Even non-trans people get mis-gendered from time to time. It happens.

I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once (:umm2:) I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.
I think you should get in touch with This Morning and see if they'll do your story.

I mean, you were falsely accused of incest in your story.

Marsh. 23-03-2019 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10485551)
omg :laugh2:
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9...jo3_r1_250.gif

Marsh. 23-03-2019 10:00 PM
Not being funny but if I met her on a train I'd ask for her autograph. Spitting image of Mrs Brown.

Ant. 23-03-2019 10:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10485556)
Not being funny but if I met her on a train I'd ask for her autograph. Spitting image of Mrs Brown.
:laugh2:

Smithy 23-03-2019 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10485550)
Even non-trans people get mis-gendered from time to time. It happens.

I had the misfortune of being mistaken for my mother's husband once (:umm2:) I didn't go on This Morning to cry discrimination. A mistake is a mistake.
That isn’t a different gender sweetie

Marsh. 23-03-2019 10:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10485610)
That isn’t a different gender sweetie
I never said it was. :oh:

People make mistakes in referring to people as things they assume they are. :fist:

armand.kay 24-03-2019 12:07 AM
she deserves an apology.

armand.kay 24-03-2019 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10485410)
Just watched the whole thing and honestly...big deal over nothing.
It's really easy to say this from the prospective of a cis person who's never gone through the trauma of feeling like you're in the wrong body. while this may not seem like a big deal to you to trans people misgendering can be extremely hurtful.

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Originally Posted by Tony Montana (Post 10485417)
Exactly! She's got a deep ****ing voice for **** sake.

If blindfolded and you heard her voice, I guarantee the majority of people would think that's a man.
Yeah her voice is deep but I've met old ladies with deeper voices. If they can see she's clearly presenting as female I don't see why they would get confused.

Alf 24-03-2019 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10485648)
It's really easy to say this from the prospective of a cis person who's never gone through the trauma of feeling like you're in the wrong body. while this may not seem like a big deal to you to trans people misgendering can be extremely hurtful.



Yeah her voice is deep but I've met old ladies with deeper voices. If they can see she's clearly presenting as female I don't see why they would get confused.
My heart bleeds! for someone's hurty feelings.

Why should we care?

Do she care about the hurt feelings that we have in our lives?


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