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joeysteele 16-06-2019 11:35 AM

I do think no matter what, so far this has been Rory's campaign.

He has impressed the general voters, those too who have turned away from the Conservative Party like myself.

He will not likely serve in a Johnson Cabinet.
He could present big problems for Johnson on the backbenches.

Rory is someone who you can be sure is a man of integrity.
Loyal too usually.
However he will I believe carry out his word if Johnson tries to exclude Parliament.

I think he'd get Labour behind him, just about all other Parties and a good solid chunk of the Conservative Party too.

If he doesn't win the leadership this time, the Conservatives would be mad to not elect him next time.
Or risk losing him altogether.

arista 16-06-2019 07:37 PM

12 more MPs to go for Rory Stewart to get through Tuesday’s vote...


bitontheslide 16-06-2019 07:53 PM

I think Rory would be totally out of his depth as PM. He reminds me a lot of John Major. He just wouldn't be able to bring the tory mp's in to line ... and that is desperately needed at the moment.

joeysteele 16-06-2019 07:59 PM

I think he'd make a brilliant PM.

Even in this campaign, he has stuck to his guns.
Not afraid to take on Boris, who seems wary of taking him on.

If Rory was leader of the Conservatives and PM.
I think he'd pull in voters from all over the place.
That would give him stature and strength as PM.

I even think he could win an election outright.

He can be really tough when he needs to be and knows when to soften rhetoric and compromise too.

I was really impressed with him on the debate.. Then again I always am when I hear him speak.

arista 16-06-2019 10:12 PM


MTVN 16-06-2019 10:27 PM

Gone right off Rory, hes got a real messiah complex where he's totally bought into his own hype

joeysteele 16-06-2019 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10594978)

The best for me by a mile.

Although he isn't likely to win due to the blinkered Conservative membership.
Fooled by Johnson.

If Rory were to win.
For me he'd be the best leader of any Party currently.

I hold enormous respect for Rory Stewart.
He showed understanding, strength, sensitivity, practicality and compassion all through this debate.

He's also one not even trying for a continued Cabinet post under Johnson.
So he's no fool or yes man either.

bitontheslide 17-06-2019 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10594988)
Gone right off Rory, hes got a real messiah complex where he's totally bought into his own hype

yeah, i'm not a fan, and as we are the closest to Tory supporters on this site it doesn't bode well for him :laugh: I also didn't like how he basically stated that any of the candidates there would be better than Boris. If you are going to do the man of the people act, don't criticise the most popular of them all lool

The other one that I didn't like was Raab, didn't like him at all. I wasn't overly impressed with Javid either.The one that I was most comfortable with was Hunt.

joeysteele 17-06-2019 07:40 AM

Ww
Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10595061)
yeah, i'm not a fan, and as we are the closest to Tory supporters on this site it doesn't bode well for him :laugh: I also didn't like how he basically stated that any of the candidates there would be better than Boris. If you are going to do the man of the people act, don't criticise the most popular of them all lool

The other one that I didn't like was Raab, didn't like him at all. I wasn't overly impressed with Javid either.The one that I was most comfortable with was Hunt.



Well I find your position odd but with respect its your position.

However, just about all my family across the UK,were Conservative supporters, including myself.
Gradually moving away from 2011, as I did.

Even they are impressed by Rory and if he was leader, already many of them would return to support the Conservatives.

As for Rory attacking Johnson.
Well Hunt attacked him in his absence in last night's debate, for not being there.

Rory talked to Boris before the campaign began.
He was led by Boris to believe Boris would not pursue a no deal.
Then said different a few days leader.

Rory now feels Johnson can't be trusted, which I agree with.
He also wants the answer, as all should, to would Johnson prorogue Parliament.
Fudge and silence again from Johnson.

So Rory, states he could not and would not serve in a Johnson led government.
That's commendable and shows his integrity.

I'm not sure Boris will in an election pull enough voters back.
Polls may say he woul and his blinkered supporters may believe said polling..
Then Polls when May took over said she could get over a 100 majority.

I don't want to see the demise further of the Conservative Party.
I said ages ago, the next leader should not be from the old guard but a fresher face.

Rory Stewart said last night he was happy hearing Labour and Lib Dem voters would vote for him in a general election.
That is what the Conservatives need.

I know what he said there was right, I would bet he'd bing votes from both Labour and Lib Dem into the Conservative fold.
Johnson, Hunt, Raab and Gove never likely could.

I far more admire Rory more for refusing to serve in a Johnson Cabinet.
Much more than Hancock now sucking up to Johnson by supporting him, to hold onto a Cabinet post.
It's a weird move from Hancock that, one that stunned me and I liked Hancock.

Vicky. 17-06-2019 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10589555)
Imo he's positioning himself for leader at the next contest rather than having serious ambitions of winning this time around. It's quite possible the Tories could be decimated in a future election and he could then be quite an effective leader of the opposition

Thats obviously the sensible thing to do. This time is a poisoned chalice. its the next one they should all want tbh, if they have any sense.

Ammi 17-06-2019 08:27 AM

..I can’t look at this title without thinking it says Rod Stewart for PM...his campaign line...do ya think I’m sexy...

LeatherTrumpet 17-06-2019 08:33 AM

he looks like he hast eaten anything but dust for 2 years

people dont like skeletal men like that

they dont trust them


shifty

arista 17-06-2019 05:31 PM


joeysteele 17-06-2019 05:40 PM

David Liddington, the sort of current deputy PM is apparently now backing him.

I don't think Johnson wants to debate with Rory for some reason.

arista 17-06-2019 10:56 PM

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2...6OZJo4_tel.JPG

Yes Rory worked as Member of the Army
and MI6.

Twosugars 17-06-2019 11:01 PM

So what if he worked for MI6? Nothing wrong with that.

Oliver_W 17-06-2019 11:06 PM

Makes him a badass tbh <3

Twosugars 17-06-2019 11:11 PM

Hope cons have enough sense to unite around him to stop the blond clown

LaLaLand 17-06-2019 11:15 PM

I think he's great honestly, his experience is great especially in our current hostile climate with everything going on.

He seems (from what I can see just surface level) fair, straight to the point, level-headed and more importantly sticks to his guns.

arista 18-06-2019 12:36 AM


bitontheslide 18-06-2019 05:23 AM

Rory will need to be out of the bottom 3 to survive past this week. It's not impossible for him to get through and it really depends how well other remainers fair because at some point I expect the leadership to boil down to a leaver vs a remainer in the final 2. That reflects the split in the tory party and it will follow in to the leadership election too.

joeysteele 18-06-2019 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10596384)
So what if he worked for MI6? Nothing wrong with that.

Nothing at all wrong in fact commendable and in his favour.

Maybe a sort of desperation from the Daily Torygraph which is almost the mouthpiece for a certain Mr Johnson.

bitontheslide 18-06-2019 07:44 AM

It's also quite possible for Boris to make an almighty cock up when he is forced out into the open. If he ends up out the race, it's anyones guess who would win

Twosugars 18-06-2019 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10596568)
Nothing at all wrong in fact commendable and in his favour.

Maybe a sort of desperation from the Daily Torygraph which is almost the mouthpiece for a certain Mr Johnson.

Well said :clap1:

Toy Soldier 18-06-2019 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10596574)
It's also quite possible for Boris to make an almighty cock up when he is forced out into the open.

The scariest part of politics in 2019, though, is that no one would care if he did and it wouldn't reduce his chances at all.

Livia 18-06-2019 10:47 AM

Peston's got his eye on Rory, that's good enough for me.

Oliver_W 18-06-2019 11:14 AM

His response to the MI6 thing should have been "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you"

Funny (for a politician), and pretty much closes the conversation right down.

Vicky. 20-06-2019 10:05 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48696619

Quote:

Four men are left in the race to be next prime minister after Rory Stewart was knocked out.

The international development secretary was eliminated after coming last with 27 votes, 10 fewer than last time.

He said his warnings about a no-deal Brexit "probably proved to be truths people weren't quite ready to hear".

Boris Johnson topped the vote again with 143 votes, 17 more than last time. Jeremy Hunt came second with 54, Michael Gove got 51 and Sajid Javid 38.
Yeah, Boris has this like.

Livia 20-06-2019 10:08 AM

I had high hopes for Rory.

Vanessa 20-06-2019 10:09 AM

Not Boris! D:

Vicky. 20-06-2019 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10599724)
I had high hopes for Rory.

Yes, me too. However, its a great thing he has been knocked out really as..whoever gets this is going to be nothing more than a scapegoat. If he runs for next leader once Brexit is hpefully sorted and has been duly blamed on Boris..he might have a chance. Its the next leader they should all want to be, not this one.

Livia 20-06-2019 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10599727)
Yes, me too. However, its a great thing he has been knocked out really as..whoever gets this is going to be nothing more than a scapegoat. If he runs for next leader once Brexit is hpefully sorted and has been duly blamed on Boris..he might have a chance. Its the next leader they should all want to be, not this one.

Got to agree.

bitontheslide 20-06-2019 10:16 AM

i wouldn't vote for the tories under any circumstances if Rory ever became the leader. I would vote for Boris

Cherie 20-06-2019 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10599719)

I get the feeling that he will be overtaken by back room shenanigans by Gove :laugh:

Vicky. 20-06-2019 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10599750)
I get the feeling that he will be overtaken by back room shenanigans by Gove :laugh:

Maybe..the thought of either of them with power terrifies me though. Mind, Hunt would be worse probably too!

Cherie 20-06-2019 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10599757)
Maybe..the thought of either of them with power terrifies me though. Mind, Hunt would be worse probably too!


Yep all rubbish, but then we have Corbyn as the alternative the UK really is ****ed :laugh:

joeysteele 20-06-2019 11:40 AM

Sad to see Rory go out.

I'm not a Conservative supporter.
However, I don't want to see the Conservative party in any big fall.

Labour has it's problems too and I'm dismayed with that party, which I support.

Really the 2 leaders of the main parties are a disaster now and that further reinforced with Johnson becoming PM..

I think Rory could have persuaded enough Labour MPs to get May's agreement passed.

I don't see any of the contenders left, and certainly not Johnson, ever uniting enough to end this impasse.
A general election wouldn't either.


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