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Tom4784 19-07-2019 03:56 PM

Scarlett Johanssen's casting controversy
 
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Scarlett Johansson has addressed the casting controversies she became embroiled in over the past few years, maintaining that she should be “allowed to play anyone”.

In 2018, the actor stepped down from playing a trans male character in new film Rub & Tug after receiving widespread backlash for the casting decision.

The move angered many trans actors and queer activists, who argued that there was an entire roster of trans male actors to play the role instead of her.

Johansson had earlier acknowledged those who criticised her decision to star in the film with a statement that read: “Tell them that they can be directed to Jeffrey Tambor, Jared Leto, and Felicity Huffman’s reps for comment.”

She later called her comments “insensitive” and said: “Our cultural understanding of transgender people continues to advance, and I’ve learned a lot from the community since making my first statement about my casting.”

Now, in a new interview with As If magazine – which the Avengers: Endgame star is now claiming has been “edited for clickbait” – said: “You know, as an actor I should be allowed to play any person, or any tree, or any animal because that is my job and the requirements of my job.”

“I feel like it’s a trend in my business and it needs to happen for various social reasons, yet there are times it does get uncomfortable when it affects the art because I feel art should be free of restrictions,” Johansson continued, adding that “society would be more connected if we just allowed others to have their own feelings and not expect everyone to feel the way we do”.

Just one year earlier, criticism was sparked upon the announcement Johansson was to play the lead in a live-action version of Japanese anime Ghost in the Shell; fans accused it of being another example of Hollywood “whitewashing”.

Just one year earlier, criticism was sparked upon the announcement Johansson was to play the lead in a live-action version of Japanese anime Ghost in the Shell; fans accused it of being another example of Hollywood “whitewashing”.

Scarlett Johansson says controversial casting comments were ‘edited’
In Marie Claire’s March cover interview, Johansson said: “I certainly would never presume to play another race of a person. Diversity is important in Hollywood, and I would never want to feel like I was playing a character that was offensive.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9003991.html
The story is a few days old but it's one that promotes an interesting conversation. For the sake of clarity, ScarJo has since clarified her comments to essentially say that acting should be free of political correctness and that it's an actor's job to embody someone other than themselves.

When it comes to race, I think racebending is fine as long as the character's race isn't an important part of the story but I don't think a white person should ever play a black character or a black character play an asian person ETC. The creator of Ghost in the Shell actually supported her casting but I remember feeling uncomfortable when she went around calling herself 'Motoko Kusanagi'. I think there's wriggle room when it comes to stories like Ghost in the Shell but I just think that film handled it poorly. I think Altered Carbon did a better job of telling that kind of story better.

I do disagree with controversies surrounding cisgendered actors portraying trans characters though. I think it's great if you can cast a trans person in the role but I think the story is often more important than the actor portraying it. I also think there's a certain level of hypocrisy in the reaction to Scarlett being cast in that film that was highlighted well by Sonique who is a trans drag queen who basically made the point of saying that a lot of trans people complain if they are only considered for trans roles so if they want to play cisgendered roles then they can't really oppose the opposite either.

Same with sexuality really, there was a film released a year or two ago called Love, Simon and that got hit with a lot of controversy from the LGBT community because the lead wasn't a gay actor and I find that ridiculous. Actors shouldn't be limited to only playing their sexuality and actors shouldn't be typecast for it either.

Oliver_W 19-07-2019 04:13 PM

I agree with pretty much all of this.

I don't know if anyone whinged about the casting of Ariel in the upcoming Mermaid movie, but that doesn't matter as her race isn't tied into the story; changing the race of Mulan or Poke wouldn't work, as they are Chinese and Native American respectively.

I had to google Ghost in the Shell just now to see the story, and it doesn't look like it's tied into race so, like Mermaid, it could be any.

There are so few trans people full stop, let alone actors, so it's understandable they wouldn't prioritize this when casting. Especially if they want a Big Name. Double especially if they need to look a certain way - in Ugly Betty, Alexis Meade needed to appear to be a beautiful woman.

As for sexualities ... if all actors could only play their own sexuality, Broadway would close down!

LukeB 19-07-2019 04:16 PM

I agree with you Dezzy

Their job is to act and they are doing that, as you said they shouldn't be a limit on what they can do.It would be nice if a transgender did have the roles but it's all about the story and how they tell it, Scarlett might have been better in her audition/screen test.

Liam- 19-07-2019 04:21 PM

The best actor should get the jobs, shoehorning minorities into roles doesn’t work when it comes to Hollywood, it’s all about the quality of the product, obviously if a minority happens to be the best for the job, crack on, but actors are actors for a reason, they should be able to play anyone, people need to get a grip.

LukeB 19-07-2019 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10632692)
I agree with pretty much all of this.

I don't know if anyone whinged about the casting of Ariel in the upcoming Mermaid movie, but that doesn't matter as her race isn't tied into the story; changing the race of Mulan or Poke wouldn't work, as they are Chinese and Native American respectively.

I had to google Ghost in the Shell just now to see the story, and it doesn't look like it's tied into race so, like Mermaid, it could be any.

There are so few trans people full stop, let alone actors, so it's understandable they wouldn't prioritize this when casting. Especially if they want a Big Name. Double especially if they need to look a certain way - in Ugly Betty, Alexis Meade needed to appear to be a beautiful woman.

As for sexualities ... if all actors could only play their own sexuality, Broadway would close down!

Some have complained about Ariel being black but they can cast any female for that as long they stick to the red hair:laugh: but yeah films like Mulan,Aladdin and even Black Panther cast had to be based on the race because of the culture.

Marsh. 19-07-2019 05:16 PM

As long as the actors aren't playing races they're not (especially involving such offensive things blackface or yellowface) I don't see the issue in switching ethnicity to suit whichever actor is playing the role. However, whitewashing isn't a good look.

When it comes to sexuality, accent, trans-status I don't see the problem in anyone playing the role as long as they can do it.

Marsh. 19-07-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10632692)
Double especially if they need to look a certain way - in Ugly Betty, Alexis Meade needed to appear to be a beautiful woman.!

idgi

Oliver_W 19-07-2019 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10632760)
idgi

Can you name a trans actress who's as hot as Rebecca Romijn?

arista 19-07-2019 05:46 PM

https://i.mdel.net/i/db/2017/2/650524/650524-500w.jpg

Marsh. 19-07-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10632764)
Can you name a trans actress who's as hot as Rebecca Romijn?

I couldn't name a trans actress full stop. Doesn't mean there aren't hot ones.

Toy Soldier 19-07-2019 06:28 PM

I went right off ScarJo when someone asked her in an interview if she had seen Infinity War and she said (in a non-joking way - she also knew nothing about the film or any of the characters other than her own) something like "lol no I have a life".

I mean I know plenty of people aren't into these sorts of films but honestly having a straight up dig at the millions of people that are writing your pay cheques? :umm2:

There's a few MCU actors who are like this about the films and it's crappy :hmph:. Much rather watch interviews with people like Tom Holland who are actually interested in / excited about the material.

Tom Holland should get her part in whatever this is :hee:.

LukeB 19-07-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10632850)
I went right off ScarJo when someone asked her in an interview if she had seen Infinity War and she said (in a non-joking way - she also knew nothing about the film or any of the characters other than her own) something like "lol no I have a life".

I mean I know plenty of people aren't into these sorts of films but honestly having a straight up dig at the millions of people that are writing your pay cheques? :umm2:

There's a few MCU actors who are like this about the films and it's crappy :hmph:. Much rather watch interviews with people like Tom Holland who are actually interested in / excited about the material.

Tom Holland should get her part in whatever this is :hee:.

You leave our ScarJo alone

Are you sure she wasn't joking?

Toy Soldier 19-07-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10632855)
You leave our ScarJo alone



Are you sure she wasn't joking?

Yes :suspect:and there are multiple times when interviewers / hosts have mentioned basic in-universe stuff and she has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.

Marsh. 19-07-2019 06:56 PM

Suddenly, the lack of main role for Black Widow and the delay for her own solo film seems deserved. :hmph:

Oliver_W 19-07-2019 07:01 PM

It's a shame really, Black Widow is great tbh

Alf 19-07-2019 07:27 PM

Hollywood is currently in its worst state in history. The art of film making has, like many other things, been infested with political correctness, and political correctness ruins everything.

Mokka 19-07-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10632818)
I couldn't name a trans actress full stop. Doesn't mean there aren't hot ones.

https://dibamoviz4.pw/images/persons/nm1209545.jpg

Laverne Cox is ashamed of you Marsh

LukeB 19-07-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10632898)
Suddenly, the lack of main role for Black Widow and the delay for her own solo film seems deserved. :hmph:

:oh:

Marsh. 19-07-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10632954)
Hollywood is currently in its worst state in history. The art of film making has, like many other things, been infested with political correctness, and political correctness ruins everything.

I'm sure whether a trans or cis actor plays a trans character has affected your film viewing pleasure profoundly. :smug:

Marsh. 19-07-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10633007)
https://dibamoviz4.pw/images/persons/nm1209545.jpg

Laverne Cox is ashamed of you Marsh

:worry:

Alf 19-07-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10633017)
I'm sure whether a trans or cis actor plays a trans character has affected your film viewing pleasure profoundly. :smug:

Depends if they're good or not. They shouldn't be cast if they're not the best person for the job. But these days it's not about who's best for the job, it's about, do they tick diversity boxes?

Marsh. 19-07-2019 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10633040)
Depends if they're good or not. They shouldn't be cast if they're not the best person for the job. But these days it's not about who's best for the job, it's about, do they tick diversity boxes?

How so?

How do you differentiate between seeing a minority on screen and concluding "a diversity box" and seeing a minority and concluding "actor won the role on merit".

And don't say "the bad ones" because there's plenty of poor actors across the board.

Oliver_W 19-07-2019 08:08 PM

Didn't the BBC set diversity quotas a few years back?

Marsh. 19-07-2019 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10633059)
Didn't the BBC set diversity quotas a few years back?

Increasing the representation in front of and behind the camera is positive?

Oliver_W 19-07-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10633063)
Increasing the representation in front of and behind the camera is positive?

It's not positive or negative, just something that is.


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