The other irony of Popstars is that it was a talent show, not a reality show, in my opinion.

I've seen Liberty X on stage, accompanied only by a single guitarist, James Fox out of Fame Academy, it's then you realise what good vocalists they are, and what a brilliant guitarist James Fox is! Shame he got such a rubbish song for Eurovision, though he certainly proved he was a much better singer than was evidenced by Fame Academy. Really nice bloke, too, by the way!