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Old 10-01-2019, 09:23 PM #39
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Alf, Pretty much everything you've said in this topic is just factually wrong.

The reason why nothing is changed when it comes to infrastructure is because people who work in vital services are now working without pay while others are on unpaid leave (People who sustain and look after the national parks etc). To make out that the people affected aren't important or even to demonise the unpaid workers by suggesting their 'making jobs for themselves' is a ****ing lie. I hate people spreading misinformation to further their cause and that's exactly what you are embracing. Falsities.

As for you blaming the Democrats. I don't care what your political leaning is, you can't look at this situation objectively with all the fact checking that's out there and say that this situation is anyone else's fault but Trump's. He himself said that he would shut down the government and he was proud to do it and that he would 'take the mantle' and that he wouldn't blame democrats.


(1.30 for him taking responsibility for any potential government shutdowns)

He can't keep his story straight and this shutdown is purely his fault. Blaming Democrats for not wanting to piss away $5bn on a vanity project is not reasonable or logical and holding 800,000 people's wages hostage to get his way is just pathetic and inexcusable. Why should the US throw that money away just to appease Trump when it's needed elsewhere? Why should the US people pay for a wall he promised that Mexico would pay for?

Objectively, he is in the wrong and defending him is just foolish. He's in the wrong and this situation is one of his own making. To deny that is to cover your eyes to the truth.
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