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BB15 Full Thoughts
  • Cast: 4/10
  • Tasks: 6/10
  • Production: 5/10
  • Public Vote: 5/10
  • House: 8/10

Overall: 28/50

Housemate Ranking
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19. Helen - I dunno if she's even worth the energy at this point. She was as bad in every aspect as I feared she'd be and worse. An indestructible irritant who constantly got what she wanted, whether that relate to disgustingly manufactured twists like the final pass or fake evicting her to obviously drum up importance during VTW, or getting what she wanted in the sense of getting away with numerous warnings after repeatedly, quite frankly, abusing others, all culminating in a very undeserving victory. This all sounds very similar to fellow scumbag Bear, and while I do probably still despise him more, Helen may be an even WORSE win than his somehow, mainly because she didn't just win over some boring runner-up like Ricky, she won over ASHLEIGH, and that is just the cherry on top of pissing me off.
18. Marlon - Blegh, just a boring dick who proved he'd sell out others just for immunity, and wallow in self-pity after apologising but then clearly awaiting sympathy from everyone. He doesn't drive me to annoyance like all the other red zone housemates I have, but he does lack any actual good aspects.
17. Pauline - Completely sucked once she singlehandedly ruined the series by giving Helen a pass to the final, but had plenty of other bad traits, mainly her tyranny in the kitchen and as a house mother that was more often uncomfortable than it was endearing.
16. Tamara - Eh, I mean I'm not exactly offended by her, but like Marlon, she does absolutely nothing of quality so I have no reason to hold her in high regard, the only importance I remember is her brief showmance with Winston, and it was pretty evident she was sort of taking advantage of him too.
15. Kimberly - A regretful choice since I liked her in the first few weeks and she did feel like she'd wind up being an American Deana, but instead she succumbed herself to the robotic personality she's so labelled for, and making it known that you have standards to not be objectified but then knowingly letting Steven take every advantage of you, whether it be sexually or verbally, was utterly disappointing, as well as it causing her to lose all sense of charisma or promise she had for me early on.
14. Biannca - "I'M GONNA GET MY TITS OUT! I'M GONNA GET MY TITS OUT!" ugh just a vapid, attention-seeking annoyance. Her over the top behaviour had its perks but for the most part, she had very little substance and I found the way she was around Winston to be borderline uncomfortable, and I'll never forgive the way she orchestrated Danielle's eviction by just assuming that because Danielle is a secret cam girl that it somehow automatically means she's lying about being a virgin, ugh shut up.
13. Steven - Ugh I really do hate him and am disgusted by him, but I couldn't help putting Steven this high. There was a lot of things that repulsed me; his childisness, his self-centeredness, his occasional patronising communication, the possessive, creepy and intolerable way he treated Kimberly, the ****ing ham on crackerbread in the diary room scene, you get it. But I couldn't help cackle at so much other stuff too; the way he babied himself to Pauline, "Two Second Steven", his constant unawareness, one-liners e.g. the family spa story, "I haven't cried since 2009", etc., and most importantly his last week where he got so """"hurt"""" by Kimberly leaving that he shaved his head, freaked out constantly, promised he'd evict Ashleigh and Christopher for nominating him if he survived , it proved he was a lot better as a comedy villain and it's a shame he wasn't more often cause I still think he's an embarrassing cretin.
12. Ash - Even though I eventually tolerated him, Ash didn't really have many outright great qualities either, and was HORRIBLE in the first four weeks, and at that point absolutely deserved to go early over Toya or even Matthew. His alignment with Helen isn't something I'm immediately against, but it was still sometimes annoying to stick by her in the times where anyone could tell she was attacking someone. A tolerable person, but not a great housemate.
11. Jale - Again, not a bad person, but was pretty much an inoffensive version of Becky Hannon in how she initially started off being quite picked on by several people, only to completely disappoint by becoming best friends with them. Thankfully in Jale's case, her only real bad traits here were 1) the time she backed Helen and Kimberly viciously ganging up on Ashleigh and 2) campaigning for Ashleigh to be evicted and for Helen to win. But nevertheless, Jale is an overall sub-par housemate who has the added bonus of being the human shields that saved Ashleigh and caused her to eventually be the favourite .
10. Zoe - Another one I don't have strong feelings about one way or another, but on the subject of whether or not she thought she was better than others with that Tesco comment, I did believe her saying she doesn't think she's better than others, however she still carried herself as if she was some kind of big larger than life superstar when really she was the most placcid and down to earth of the cast.
9. Winston - Lmao I went in expecting to HATE him based on the negativity that pops up every time he's mentioned but Winston was really not that bad. He kind of sucked in the first few weeks e.g. his behaviour with Toya and blind backing of Helen, but there were times where he was righteous, like his funny drags of Marlon and especially how he stuck up for Ashleigh, even against his own friends when he felt she was being backed up on and it shown he's an alright lad . However, the thick act still wore thin after nine weeks and he still overall didn't do many exciting things, so I did still enjoy his shock eviction.
8. Pav - Never have I seen such an OTT hatred of an inoffensive bore. Pav may not have ever excited me at all, but I still had plenty of sympathy in how he was misunderstood as some sort of devious gameplayer, how the house underestimated that he'd ever deserve to be a finalist just because he arrived late, and the on and off "Get Pav Out" chants. As for him, I thought he handled all that very well and had a lot of tolerance, though I still hold him in lower regard than I can for him secretly being on Helen's camp in one of her many wrong opinions, this one being that there's some sort of secret attraction Chris had towards Ashleigh and then Get Pav Out doesn't really bother me
7. Matthew - I did have him in neutral territory during the watch, but when I actually evaluate Matthew, I'm struggling to think of much I liked. He was catty and sometimes it was funny like when he was scheming with Toya or being a dick to Helen but other times he was a little smug and he should've just admitted how terrifying Helen's bullying of him actually was instead of just shrugging it off with 'lol she has saggy tits anyway idc'. He didn't deserve to be evicted so early, but in retrospect it wasn't that much a loss either.
6. Chris - Even though a lot of his most appealing moments were restricted to the diary room, and I briefly disliked him for how he was to Pav, I still look back at Chris with fondness somehow. Usually his opinions were on-point and had witty one-liners to them, his love/hate (mostly hate) relationship with Helen was quite funny, him and Ashleigh were an alright dynamic after losing Toya and Danielle too soon, and he always had good intentions and seemed like a funny, likeable guy, even though I didn't know enough about him.
5. Mark - Really mixed on him. Thought he was a key enjoyment factor for a lot of BB15 but was let down by how it felt like he was putting himself above Christopher while still flirting with him, and it was AWFUL when he hypothetically took £15K and just sat there, even being supportive of her, as Helen dished out anger at Chris for doing the same thing, not taking any accountability for it. But he was still a usually good housemate so an above average bordering on neutral housemate he is!
4. Christopher - I really was trying to be a fan because he seemed like a lovely guy who was righteous in practically all his arguments, and I felt sorry for him on s number of occasions, but I guess he never hit that high for me, though Christopher still had plenty of nice moments that make him deservedly the best male of BB15 imo.
3. Toya - Even though I didn't like her till her last week, what a great last impression to have. Toya's eviction and how it happened may have been the first sign of bull**** twists of production this series, but on the upside she went out with a bang, and righteously shut down all the most annoying housemates at that time and I commend holding herself together and righteously laying into pricks in spite of being goaded by Ash and Winston and Marlon. She had some charming intelligence to her, but it was even more fun watching the way she snapped.
2. Danielle - I'm pretty sure she's predominantly liked on the forum anyway, but I don't see many who outright LOVED her like me, so I may as well say Danielle is very underrated and was very enjoyable . I was so compelled by such an enigmatic yet expressive presence who had apparently bstrict Catholic views yet her two best friends were an Atheist and a homosexual . She always had me laughing with her clear abrasiveness about things like sex talk or when someone, in her words, "PEED her off" She probably is my pick for most unfair eviction for a number of reasons and was more deserving of being the Week 8 evictee big character of every series besides BB15, but by that point she's still a magenta housemate who was a big saviour of an otherwise poor series.
1. Ashleigh - I've never seen an under 20s housemate handle themselves as eloquently, gracefully and righteously as Ashleigh. The way she shrugged off Helen's antagonising of her and twisting what she said by laying things down against Helen in response that made her look worse was something I never tired of. And even though Ashleigh admits to being just as sneaky and grumpy with others as Helen is, in Ashleigh's case I loved it because it was usually directed at the right people, or at the very least was more entertaining and understandable, as well as being actually funny unlike Helen. Ashleigh balso knew the house would underestimate an 18 year old like her, so I applauded how intelligent, honest and level-headed she really was. She may not have won, but if the winner gets booed while the runner-up gets chanted as the real winner, and if the winner comes back the series after and be somehow even worse and get banned from ever being associated with the show after tag-team bullying someone and comparing them to a murderer and rapist and now who's only career is being a dick, while Ashleigh still seems to be having a great career off the back of the show, then who is the real winner here?

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It's sad to say I don't like this series cause it really did have a strong first six weeks and even the week after Danielle left was okay, but the last three weeks it suddenly felt dragged out and in general sometimes the series got dragged out because the ****e about the unanswerable question of "Is Helen a good person deep down or is she a bully?" was a tedious cycle, even while I was enjoying the series, one that transcended the same way a couple months later with Katie Hopkins and then another couple of months later with Marc, so thanks Helen!

This series also follows the BB14 manufactured interference, in this case even more harmfully with evictions like Toya's and Danielle's, and pointless twists that ruin the series that I've mentioned before like the final pass and the fake eviction, both culminating in one of the worst winners. The power housemate idea was an interesting concept but it was hit or miss in practice. Like BB8, I feel it had potential to be a fantastic series, but numerous technicalities wear it down. However unlike BB8, BB15 ultimately isn't too entertaining either. Most of the major storylines here were also very stale; the eventual reliance on Helen vs Ashleigh with production interference is an example that sums all this up. However, I will say I'd have luked this series a lot more if it didn't end as tragically as it did.

First Watch List:
BB6
BB13
BB7
BB10
BB5
BB9
BB14
BB8
BB15

Series yet to watch:
BB1
BB2
BB3
BB4
BB12

Possible rewatches:
BB11
BB16

Even though I didn't like it at the time, I was kind of busy while watching BB3 so I may as well give it another shot, but rather than starting all over, I'll just continue from where I was because nothing much really happens the first few days, just gotta track down what was the last episode I watched by going back months in the part 2 thread .
The detail in this And I thought me putting a ranking of the series I’ve watched was me being extra

I thought about doing write-ups in mine but I didn’t in the end
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