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Old 11-07-2019, 11:39 AM #13
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Originally Posted by joeysteele View Post
It was going over a lot of old ground.
As arista indicated.

I never make excuses for anyone, as a Labour party member and supporter
I am really annoyed at this issue in the Labour party.
One of the people in the documentary I hold high respect for.
I wouldn't doubt his word at all.

However, I don't think this documentary revealed much more than has been said over the last 2 years.

Of course the usual Labour bashers will dive in while ignoring the mess in their own Party's garden.

It is a disgrace that the Labour party even has this issue which is seemingly taking ages to eradicate.
Which it should be.
In fact should have been so now.

There is thankfully, a fully independent investigation going on in the Labour party now and the organisation doing that will I hope leave no stones unturned.
Then present their findings and instructions if needed to clear this awful mess up.

Is the leader to be held responsible.
Is Mrs May responsible for the Islamophobia in her Party, NO.

I have many reservations about Corbyn, I make no secret he was not my choice for leader.
I'd even add I'd rather another leader now too.

Do I really believe he's anti semitic,
No
Do I really believe the Labour party is rife with antisemitism, NO

However anyone holding any genuine antisemitic views should be out the party.
No its or buts.
In my view.

I will wait and take the findings of this independent investigation.
That is now the thing I've hoped for.
Anyone or organisation complained about, in my view should never investigate themselves.
So I am happier and confident that this independent investigation will be the better way.

I think myself an antisemitic problem in Labour will be identified but I'd doubt, the often vast over exaggerations of the haters of the left and Labour will be proven right in their rubbing of hands glee, of their over exaggerations against Labour.
Maybe too, even as to the present leader.


Well that's quite a change of tack there joey. Haters of the left will be rubbing their hands in glee? You think it's all an exaggeration now? All those people in that clip were lying? Yes, let's wait for the independent investigation, and what a shame that was needed.

Lastly, why the reference to the Tories and the alleged Islamophobia? Is it now the thinking that two wrongs make a right?
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