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Originally Posted by Ammi
...anyway, to answer the thread of whether humans will ever be truly civilised, I think we are civilised in that we have empathy/compassion/conscience etc and that prevents 'uncivilised' behaviour/actions in most people and I think most people are good...obviously there are extremes of human behaviour which don't have those qualities the same as others and whether it be in the name of religion or any other 'excuse'/cause, they will do bad things...there are also 'bad seeds' or bad people like Anders Breivik who can callously just take lives the way he did, with know emotion/conscience at all...
..will we ever be 'perfect'...I don't think so but I think that would be an extreme as well and possibly create its own problems, it would be interesting I guess...I think a lack of tolerance and judging others in general probably contributes a lot to 'the world's ills'....the internet, social sites/forums etc is a great example of that, especially on a BB forum maybe, where a big part of BB is 'judging' and we hear horror stories of bullying etc and generally bad behaviour all the time from sites like Ask.fm and awful behaviour hostile behaviour between people who don't know each other....but the internet is also a huge treasure trove of good things/information/communication as well....so that's a case also of using something for good and positive, rather than bad/evil..which can be done in religion, yes...as it can in many things...I guess it's the 'workman' and not the 'tool'....hmmm, not a great pun/analogy but hey ho.....
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I think we have regressed in these areas. we have made so many absurd laws now, that a mere conversation on moral values is almost outlawed and politicians, councillors, even nhs staff barely mention moral questions any more?
The real progession has been made by scientists , biologists, inventors, architects, engineers, manufacturers etc
Much of the rest of humanity has become fat greedy polluting and complacent , riding on the coat tails of these brilliant people
the BIGGEST problem we have too is misunderstanding the past. we have failed so many times to learn the real lessons from the past. the lessons learned are instead perverted to suit the agendas of certain groups of people for their own self interests.....This applies to the middle east, Afghanistan, Persian Gulf, Jordan, Israel, Palestine, Saudia Arabia.
Even south Africa is undoing a lot of the great work done
did we ever learn the lessons of our empire? did the americans learn from our successes and failures? did the Chinese learn the lessons of russsias collapsed communist structures?
I say again though the total perversion and misinterpretation of human history is a lethal mistake we are passing on through the generations and is getting worse. This includes the utterly perverted one eyed brainless rewriting of history by the uber- destructive hate fuelled radical feminists. All extremists who wish to damage society need to come back to the centre and learn listen and understand. the first rule of compromise is understanding the way to compromise is found somewhere between the extreme viewpoints