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Originally Posted by delta
Hi,
Not a problem.
There is no right or wrong and no winners in arguments the only thing that can decide a debate is the majority watching, now whilst I haven't done a poll and you are entitled to your opinion. I think the number of people that said he is a bully in and outside of the house are too many too classify him as misunderstood or struggling in some other sort of human sphere.
Kellie has come from the meanest streets of London and probably dealt with the low life of the boxing fraternity. He let slip in a conversation that he felt intimidated by Mr Jordan {Jumior} now for a woman/man of his past reputation and walk of life tells you something about the image he projects and for that alone he counts as a bully. To intimidate is a form of bullying. Gary touched upon it in the counselling session. Your words say one thing but you are betrayed by your body language.
When he went in there he'd assessed everyone's character with-in 30 seconds and he bragged that the only one he got wrong was Ricci who he thought would be loud mouthed, beer swinging, no for good lout. What?
I also think that the fence sitters decided to side with him for an easy life and a question to ask your self,: Would the house be a more calmer place with out Bully Elliot in it? Well we already have the answer to that from KM. " He stated that there would be a huge sigh of relief if he was evicted and everyone could relax and get on with each other and life." He's a divider, a user, a schemer and a bully. End of.
Another instance that highlights he is a controller and a bully is the night Lauren let things hang out and he recanted later that in " In no way would he let his wife act like that" What, do you own her or something?
The reason why I asked you if you were watching the same program as the rest of us was.Certain people on here don't see the whole picture, not because they are being underhand - they somehow don't see it all. I am a big football fan and the different versions of one event on forums is alarming. There is only one truth one happening and I like the people who get nearest to what actually took place. Not a concocted version or interpretation of events. There is now an unequivocal ground swell of opinion stating that he is a bully and how you can argue other wise I don't really understand. Yes, he has other issues, low self esteem, another sign of a bully,Insecure, lack of confidence, identity problem, problems with authority etc
Finally, I think we will find that the housemates once they have vacated the premises as Boreham Wood- if they have the guts to stand up and be counted- to say that in hindsight that he was overbearing and they were a tad scared of him and were glad that Audley was there as counter balance.
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..you can never know what a ‘majority opinion’ of the public is until votes are cast as we all know and atm James remains a housemate because he has not had a ‘majority of votes to evict him...there is only ever your own opinion for your own reasons, no one else’s opinion is relevant...and when it comes to judging character in the BB house, there are ‘many truths’..yours and mine just being two of them, but there is no absolute truth unless BB has itself come to its own opinion that bullying is occurring in the house and acted on it by ejecting a housemate... no matter what links are posted and definitions of ‘bullying’ etc it doesn’t validate an opinion any further , either yours or mine but it seems to me quite strange to have examples of any ‘playground or childish behaviour’ included when you don’t even use a housemates name but prefer an offensive ‘nickname’...and tbh and as you know I have no ‘special interest’ myself in any defence of James or his behaviour in the house as I am most definitely not a fan for many reasons..he’s pompous, arrogant, self-important, sometimes intolerant and lacking in consideration or interest in much beyond himself ...he also I think has very low self-esteem which projects in him being a complete pain in somehow feeling he has ‘something to prove’... but I am quite staggered that the photoshop pic depicting him as a bully have been allowed on the forum... and I certainly find them quite silly, unnecessary and offensive but that’s entirely up to the moderation of this forum and only my own personal opinion....anyway you do make some interesting points on James even if I don’t agree with them but it’s never necessary to refer to fans of any housemate in a derogatory way as to ‘not seeing the whole picture’ because you find it hard to understand why they would support and like a housemate that you feel the complete opposite about....and these opposing opinions are what have made and still make BB so interesting because we do all see the same show but don’t always agree that we’re ‘seeing the same thing’....
..anyway we agree to differ and as you say, no problem....