[joeysteele]

I'll never believe Joe is genuine,this was a clever and good move by Raph and intelligently thought through by him.
Had Joe rejected the move by Raph, that would have shown with even more clarity the real darker side of Joe.
For any that still have any doubt how he is that is.

By accepting,while it looks that bit better as to Joe, it is seen that Raph had to make the first move.

A win, win for Raph however it played out.

Viewers like myself,still note that it was Raph who made the gesture not Joe.
That speaks volumes still against Joe.

Really good move by Raph, good one.