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Originally Posted by Brillopad
Ditto.
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Educate yourself.
Nazi' is the short name. The full name for the 'Nazi' party was the "National Socialist German Workers' Party" ("Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" in German).
The fact that the far-right party contained 'socialist' in the name was a rebranding gambit to draw workers away from communism and into populist nationalism.
Despite this, the populist nationalists that support the likes of Donald Trump, regualarly take the oportunity to remind modern day liberal or left-leaning critics of white-supremacists and neo-nazis that 'Socialism' was included in the Nazi party name.
Hitler's party positioned as a left-wing organisation based on his rhetoric, rather than his actions, espoused in the 1920s and 1930s to disenfranchised workers frustrated with what they perceived as a two-tier society.
Neither left or right wing want to be known as the side of the political spectrum that Hitler was on, and both sides would argue he was on the other, politically speaking.
Here is the short version...
Nazis called themselves the 'National Socialists', and they even nicked some (incredibly benign) socialist policies. It is, however, a total misnomer, it's like the World Series, or Democratic People's Republic of Korea, or 'ethics in gaming journalism'.
The Nazis were fascists. Indisputably. They drew their ideology from Italy's fascists, who arose in reaction to the Left. The Italian Right still mired in 19th century thought, could not tackle the explosion in left-wing organization
Mussolini gives us the first fascist platform - national/racial superiority, rearmament & expansion, and consolidation of capital. The Italian Fascists appropriated, wholesale, Roman imagery, such as the 'fasces', to evoke renewed national pride & a sense of superiority.
The Italian Fascists sought to expand & reclaim historically Italian lands (mirroring a large portion of the old Roman Empire).
After nicking some socialist economic policies (public works & spending), fascist government formed corporate cartels, enriching the few.
Hitler & his Deutcher Arbeiter Partei mates see this and decide that they need to steal support from actual socialists, so the DAP rebadge themselves as the NSDAP... Socialism still being a relatively new ideology. It's like adding 'e-' to a product name.
Otherwise, they were fascist - 1. Saw themselves as racially/nationally superior, 2. Wanted rearmament & expansion, 3. Consolidated capital.
Do I really need to go into their views on race & their feelings towards the Jews?
Do I really need to go into their designs on a 'Greater German Reich'?
The Germans used socialist economic policies, before retreating to a corporate cartel base. Companies like Krupp made $$$.
The actual socialists who emerged after Marx wanted three things - 1. Removal of classes. 2. World socialism. 3. Distribution of capital.
So, you see, @stillgray there's a big ****ing difference between fascism and socialism, in that they're COMPLETE ****ING OPPOSITES.
So, if you're peddling this 'munuhmunuh NAZIS ARE SOCIALISTS' bull**** you're either massively dense or an evil prick.
This is a condensed version of the twitter exchange for you from Mike Suchberry History tutor and author.
https://www.indy100.com/article/nazi...chbery-7900001