[Niamh.]

I love reading peoples theories and it helps fill the void while waiting for the next book. What are your favourites? Ones you think are true and which you think are not?

I found one I hadn't heard this afternoon and I love it, especially the last paragraph about Meera Reed :

Spoiler:

The Reeds

The who? In a world populated by dragons, 8-foot knights with a penchant for rape and 100,000-strong armies, it's easy to forget about the diminutive and enigmatic House Reed. But it's likely that they play a central role in coming exposition: Howland Reed was one of the few to accompany Ned Stark to the Tower of Joy, and thus to know the truth about Lyanna's death. If R plus L does equal J, and in the absence of Benjen, then it might necessitate his reemergence to explain it—he's yet to make an appearance in the books.

Or so we think. Some theorise the new High Septon is in fact Howland Reed. His dirty appearance, small stature and bare feet are all in keeping with descriptions of Crannogmen (Reed's people), and he also seems to have a fondness for Ned. Leading the peasant army the Faith Militant, it would be a remarkable turn of fortune for the North, after their wholesale butchering by the Freys at the Red Wedding.

Two Reeds we have met are Jojen and Meera, Howland's offspring, as they accompany Bran on his journey beyond the Wall. Theories surround both of them. One theory that, while outlandish, has gained significant traction is “Jojen paste”—that Jojen, a greenseer himself, has been killed, made into a paste, and fed to Bran by the Children of the Forest to awaken his psychic abilities. If true, the implication is that the Children are not as friendly as they seem, and may not be working in Bran’s best interests.

If Aegon is indeed a pretender (and assuming R+L=J), and discounting any secret Targaryen status on the part of the Lannisters, then this leaves at least one space open in the prophecy that “the dragon has three heads”—commonly interpreted as three riders for Dany’s three dragons. Step forward, Meera Reed. It’s very farfetched, but given Howland accompanied Ned to the Tower of Joy, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Lyanna birthed not one child but twins. For safe-keeping, these were split—Jon to Ned, Meera to Howland. They’re the same age, after all.

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/compreh...racy-theories/

[Locke.]

That'd be pretty good. Meera is great in the books, her and Jojen are a bit forgettable in the show though.

Ones I believe - Jon being Rhaegar and Lyanna's son (although hopefully not), Jojen was murdered in Bran's last chapter and that is the paste he ate, The Hound being the grave digger on the Quiet Isle.

I did believe in the one about the Blackfish escaping with Jeyne Westerling from Riverrun as well, and it being her sister posing as her, as Jeyne was pregnant... But the show killing off Talisa has killed my last remaining hope of that. Or of it having any purpose, at least.

[Smithy]

Jojen was murdered in Bran's last chapter and that is the paste he ate

Someone mentioned on a different site that people are overlooking brans character, seeing as GRRM wrote the PW episode, when Bran had the vision he heard a voice say something along the lines of "Without you we're all lost, you're our only hope, blah, blah" not really a theory but yeah

[Roy Mars III]

if the ending of the series is Dany, Jon, and Tyrion joining forces or something like that this series will be ruined

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

That'd be pretty good. Meera is great in the books, her and Jojen are a bit forgettable in the show though.

Ones I believe - Jon being Rhaegar and Lyanna's son (although hopefully not), Jojen was murdered in Bran's last chapter and that is the paste he ate, The Hound being the grave digger on the Quiet Isle.

I did believe in the one about the Blackfish escaping with Jeyne Westerling from Riverrun as well, and it being her sister posing as her, as Jeyne was pregnant... But the show killing off Talisa has killed my last remaining hope of that. Or of it having any purpose, at least.

I believe this one

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Josy

I believe this one

Yeah me too and I hope it's true cos I love the Hound

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Locke.

That'd be pretty good. Meera is great in the books, her and Jojen are a bit forgettable in the show though.

Ones I believe - Jon being Rhaegar and Lyanna's son (although hopefully not), Jojen was murdered in Bran's last chapter and that is the paste he ate, The Hound being the grave digger on the Quiet Isle.

I did believe in the one about the Blackfish escaping with Jeyne Westerling from Riverrun as well, and it being her sister posing as her, as Jeyne was pregnant... But the show killing off Talisa has killed my last remaining hope of that. Or of it having any purpose, at least.

Im assuming the episode disproved that one?

looks like they all burn

[Locke.]

Maybe. Bran's story is completely different in the show though, they don't even have Coldhands who was the best part of it

[Smithy]

they may still run into him, isn't it him that leads them to the children?

[Locke.]

Yeah, he shoulda appeared ages ago though, but I suppose it's still possible he'll turn up soon

[Locke.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

Jojen was murdered in Bran's last chapter and that is the paste he ate

I don't know if the season 4 finale makes this more or less likely... It certainly makes it seem like Jojen has nothing left to do in the books at least, and if he wasn't already killed will be very soon.

[Smithy]

they pretty much confirmed Robert Strong's identity too

[Locke.]

****, how did I never come across this before - http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/253zbx/

It would almost make all the time spent reading Dany's chapters worth it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Locke.

****, how did I never come across this before - http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/253zbx/

It would almost make all the time spent reading Dany's chapters worth it

Ohhhhhh I never saw that one before either mg: Euron only has one eye though doesn't he?

[Niamh.]

They haven't spent much time on the Iron born in the TV Series yet, so obviously when Euron appears then we will know straight away where as GRRM may not have planned to reveal it in the book for longer

[Locke.]

That might be exactly why they haven't spent much time on them though, because it'd give the twist away.

I mean really, whether they plan on spending time on them or not they coulda killed Balon over 2 seasons ago.

[Locke.]

Also, on his eye:

Euron is pale and handsome with black hair and a dark beard. He wears a patch over his left eye, and is nicknamed '"Crow's Eye".

According to Euron's nephew, Theon, the patch conceals a "black eye shining with malice"

So he actually does have both eyes, and Theon hasn't known him since he was a child so his view on it being "black" could just be a story he'd been told

[Niamh.]

oh also regarding the Theory about Meera in the OP, her and John have similar hair

[Smithy]

I actually think they've just cut the whole Greyjoy storyline from the show cause it'll just end up not really going anywhere like the guy who thought he could tame the dragons (I don't even remember his name, I need to reread the books ) the pace this season is going I reckon Dany will end the season face to face with the Khalasar like the end of ADWD and by E3 S6 she'll be on her way to westeros, there was no news of any Greyjoy castings when the S5 casting call was released so surely by S6 it would be far too late :/

After cutting LSH you wouldn't think they'd want to cut another big twist like that theory out of the show

[Niamh.]

The Greyjoys story seems to be important to the books storyline though

[Niamh.]

I found another theory I hadn't heard before, i like this one also

Brienne is Cersei's younger, more beautiful rival

What is it: When a young Cersei meets Maggy the Frog, she's told she will be queen until "another, younger and more beautiful, [will] cast you down and take all that you hold dear." As an adult, Cersei clearly thinks that person is another queen, namely Margaery Tyrell, who swept into King's Landing and married not one but two of the Queen Mother's sons. The audience seemingly is supposed to assume that person is Daenerys, who fits those qualities, is planning a journey to conquer Westeros and isn't someone Cersei considers a challenge.

But what if the "another" isn't a different queen at all? This theory suggests that Brienne of Tarth is the woman who ultimately will take all that Cersei holds dear, and will be the one to herald the end of her reign as queen. After all, Brienne is repeatedly called Brienne the Beauty, has wormed her way into Cersei's brother-lover Jaime Lannister's heart and is the last person both the characters in the show and "Game of Thrones'" audience would expect to fulfill this prophecy. Thanks theloneliesthalfling on Reddit for a great breakdown of this one.

Why it's important: That last part is the biggest reason, actually. Martin is known for making unexpected choices, and both Margaery and Daenerys are pretty expected. Cersei clearly has been waiting her entire life for this other woman to emerge, and for it to be someone she doesn't consider a threat -- and who isn't even traditionally "more beautiful," though Brienne certainly has a heart of gold -- is exactly the type of justice she should get. Plus it would underline the fact Brienne is awesome.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The Greyjoys story seems to be important to the books storyline though

They show and the books are gonna end up at the same destination, I guess they're just taking different roads

[Glenn.]

I've started reading from the beginning. I've noticed a few subtle changes so far.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

They show and the books are gonna end up at the same destination, I guess they're just taking different roads

Yeah though tbh I think I'd nearly prefer if they had different endings now since the show is going to finish first

[Smithy]

To paraphrase the very elaborate theory, the book of Revelations features a seven headed dragon (the Targaryen dynasty ruling over the Seven Kingdoms) who is eventually brought down by an opposing army (Robert's in this case). In the aftermath of this, a pregnant woman flees and gives birth to a child (Lyanna Stark), a child who is prophesied to rule over all nations (Jon Snow). The child is then spirited away by a giant bird (House Arryn's sigil is a falcon, and Jon Arryn was the foster parent of Ned Stark).

Meanwhile, two dragon-like beasts rise from the sea to rule over mankind (likely Dany and Aegon conquering Westeros from across the Narrow Sea), causing fire to rain down on the land (Dany's dragons). Finally, a savior arises, with the people rallying behind him (according to this theory, Jon again).

Here's where things get really crazy though. In Revelations, this savior leads an army of riders clad in all white. According to the theory, Jon will turn to the Others to reclaim Westeros (perhaps even becoming one), eventually triumphing over the Targaryens, but losing himself in the process.

Revelations ends with the messianic figure reigning for a thousand years, leading this theory to conclude that an immortal Jon Snow will take the Iron Throne, ruling over a shattered Westeros in a very bittersweet ending.