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14-12-2019, 02:09 PM | #51 | |||
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14-12-2019, 02:14 PM | #52 | ||
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14-12-2019, 02:54 PM | #53 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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You say that as if 2010 the Torys didn't have to be propped up by the Lib Dems, 2015 Camerons majority was so slim, May went again, and oh boy did people not vote against their own interests on that one
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14-12-2019, 03:01 PM | #54 | ||
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14-12-2019, 03:05 PM | #55 | |||
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There's no need to give up, let's just hope their next leader is more New Labour and/or Northern to make them more attractive to Joe Public. Whoever it is shouldn't be another London Bubble Leftie. |
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14-12-2019, 03:19 PM | #56 | ||
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The people have proved to me that they are irreparable idiots and I will never place my faith in the public again. Let the tories bleed them dry and let them thank their overlords for it. I've had enough of hoping for better. My hope is dead. |
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14-12-2019, 03:19 PM | #57 | |||
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Does it matter? The media will just crucify them somehow and make them hated too. They even managed to do it to Bland Miliband ffs. They managed to make a guy who has fought for minorities his whole life seem like a racist. I suppose you got to be Tony Blair and be willing to send us to a pointless war and kill a million of those Muslims to stand a chance.
I’ll go with Rayner or Thornberry though.
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14-12-2019, 04:07 PM | #58 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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...the future of Labour...?...there is just so much bad stuff in the media about politicians in general...but Labour’s youngest MP, Nadia Whittome is a shining beacon of inspiration for a hopeful political future...’the power of youth’.......
The youngest MP in the UK has pledged to give away a large amount of her Ł79,000 salary to charity. Labour's Nadia Whittome, 23, who won the Nottingham East seat in the general election, will only take home Ł35,000 after tax. She will donate the rest to Nottingham charities because she does not want to earn more than public sector workers. Ms Whittome told Nottinghamshire Live. "It's not about philanthropy and it's not that MPs don't deserve that salary, it's the fact our teaching assistants, nurses and firefighters do as well. "When they get the pay rise they deserve, so will I. I hope this decision sparks a conversation about earnings.” ...full article... https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-y...110200949.html Last edited by Ammi; 14-12-2019 at 04:07 PM. |
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14-12-2019, 04:19 PM | #59 | |||
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14-12-2019, 04:33 PM | #60 | |||
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i listened to a young labour mp on Friday who seemed to speak a lot of sense ... no idea who he was though
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14-12-2019, 04:36 PM | #61 | |||
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I know Jess Phillips was a big enthusiast for another EU ref, and I think one of the things the new Labour leader needs to do is acknowledge, or at least realise, that policy cost votes. |
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14-12-2019, 04:44 PM | #62 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...e-islam-threat 54% of the Tory rank-and-file believe that Islam is generally a threat to the British way of life 60% think that Islam is generally a threat to Western civilisation The YouGov study follows polling results released last month, which found that almost half of Conservative members would not accept a Muslim as the country's Prime Minister. I know, I know, they just wanted to get brexit done, and we need to win these people back remember?
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14-12-2019, 09:35 PM | #63 | ||
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14-12-2019, 10:28 PM | #64 | |||
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14-12-2019, 10:34 PM | #65 | ||
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She sounds like an amazing person but she'd be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser in seconds and the idiot rags would mount a campaign against her based on her race. Tory voters won't change their minds for a muslim woman. Boris has as much support as he has because he ticks all the white- I mean, 'right' boxes for Tory voters.
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14-12-2019, 10:35 PM | #66 | |||
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14-12-2019, 10:58 PM | #67 | |||
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ਵਫ਼ਾਦਾਰੀ ☬
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14-12-2019, 11:06 PM | #68 | |||
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14-12-2019, 11:08 PM | #69 | |||
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15-12-2019, 02:26 AM | #70 | ||
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True, but let's face it, they would turbo charge that hatred if it was a muslim woman that took over.
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15-12-2019, 08:25 AM | #71 | |||
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I’ve just seen Richard Burgon being interviewed by Sophie Ridge on Sky News .. well she couldn’t interview him as appears to be a robot ( with some serious glitches ) .
What a complete idiot .. Boris must be praying this chump is the next Labour leader Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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15-12-2019, 08:40 AM | #72 | |||
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I’ve been watching loads of interviews after the election ‘fallout ‘ Why when every male labour politician is directly asked if THEY will be standing for the labour leader role each one suggests the name of a FEMALE labour politician ?!? It reminds me a bit of The Apprentice where at the start of each challenge the team members try their best to get someone else to be the team leader !! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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15-12-2019, 11:38 AM | #73 | |||
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i would have no objection to labour having a term or 2 in office if they started with a caring, middle of the road approach, and for goodness sake, pick the best candidate for the job. Someone with a bit of charisma, someone that can communicate well and wont fudge answering simple questions
Labour previously had a reputation of being driven by the unions, Tony Blair brought that in check for a while (hence his success) and now the power has reverted back to the unions. That needs to be brought back under control for labour to gain back its voters. |
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15-12-2019, 11:54 AM | #74 | |||
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Well all the Male labour mps are saying it should be a woman ..
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15-12-2019, 11:59 AM | #75 | |||
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They should play it safe with someone like Andy Burnham, David Milliband ... give the Left a voice, but a sensible and credible one. I don't know a great deal of female Labour MPs offhand... Emily Thornberry - repellent, sneering. London bubble. Dianne Abbott - mentally handicapped Jess Phillips - would probably break down crying every time she got a mean tweet They're the three "main" ones we hear from these days. Last edited by Oliver_W; 15-12-2019 at 12:00 PM. |
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