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arista · 07-11-2014, 03:05 PM

[Four men have been arrested by police investigating an alleged Islamist plot to carry out an attack in the UK]

http://news.sky.com/story/1368910/ar...t-to-attack-uk

Yes Keep arresting them

Ninastar · 07-11-2014, 03:08 PM

well done to the services for managing to stop them!

Northern Monkey · 07-11-2014, 03:19 PM

Good job.Now they need to be locked up in Guantanamo and have their bollocks tazered daily.

Brother Leon · 07-11-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Good job.Now they need to be locked up in Guantanamo and have their bollocks tazered daily.

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 03:58 PM

They need to bring back a mandatory death sentence for treason - and if they are living in this great country and probably availing themselves of every soft benefit going, whilst plotting to murder its citizens and destroy our democracy - then they are fking treacherous bastards and need executing.

They are not 'Soldiers of Islam or Allah, or 'The One-Eyed Yellow Idol To The North Of Katmandu' - they are despicable, **** cnt murdering cowards and traitors.

Northern Monkey · 07-11-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

Tom4784 · 07-11-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

How can we even pretend to be any better if we torture enemies as retaliation? Torture doesn't justify torture. It's just repeating the cycle over and over again, Plus there's the whole issue of tortured prisoners becoming martyrs for their cause.

LeatherTrumpet · 07-11-2014, 04:09 PM

the religion of peace strikes again...

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

No comparison at all. Civilian 'Western Prisoners' have nothing to do with any 'war' and should not be touched, and Military 'Western Prisoners' are Prisoners of War' - being readily identified 'Western Soldiers' dressed in the relevant battle fatigues or uniform and located in a legitimate 'theater of war - not being dressed in 'civilian clothing' and purporting to be ordinary civilians ensconced in comfy little 'free gratis' houses in the UK, whilst availing themselves of every benefit available in this great democracy, whilst plotting to murder and commit terrorist bombings and murder against the very citizens whose taxes and softness allow the bastards to be here in the first place.

Further; 'Prisoners of War' should be treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention - not tortured and beheaded by bestial masked cowards.

arista · 07-11-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

We do not Hack their heads off
and post onto the internet

Isis are more evil than we are

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

How can we even pretend to be any better if we torture enemies as retaliation? Torture doesn't justify torture. It's just repeating the cycle over and over again, Plus there's the whole issue of tortured prisoners becoming martyrs for their cause.

I'm not proposing or condoning torturing any legitimate prisoner of war, but let's not confuse the issue here; covert terrorists living in the UK are not soldiers and can never be rationally classified as 'prisoners of war' when they are detected and arrested by our security forces or police - they are evil, cowardly, murdering scumbags.

What's more - and I make no apologies here - once it has been ascertained by our intelligence services that they are irrefutably terrorists, then if those terrorists have information of impending bombings or other outrages against the UK, then I personally don't give a flying FK how that information is 'extracted' from the evil bastards if it is going to save lives.

I don't understand some people's disgust and objections. I have watched many documentaries on the Crime Channel and noted how so many convicted 'civilian' murderers contemptuously refuse to tell the victims grieving families just where the victims bodies are, so that they can be retrieved and given a proper burial. This includes a huge number of child victims, and there is just no way that these cruel bastards should be living out their lives in a cushy prison 'untroubled'. I'd personally let Ving Rhames into their cell with a pair of pliers one quiet night, so he can "Get medieval on their asses" until they told exactly what they done with these victims.

It's no different with terrorists'.

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

We do not Hack their heads off.

Isis are more evil than we are

Well said Arista.

Northern Monkey · 07-11-2014, 05:12 PM

Well it would deter them.I would'nt even kill them,They think they're gonna die a martyr and get 72 virgins.I'd just torture the **** out of them until they get the message and then i'd lock them up with some far right skin heads in prison.

JoshBB · 07-11-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

Yeah, and whose fault is that? If we stopped invading their countries maybe they would back off a bit.

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

Exactly. Torture is wrong and if we advocate it towards members of ISIS then we cannot complain when they do the same back to people on our side.

JoshBB · 07-11-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Well it would deter them.I would'nt even kill them,They think they're gonna die a martyr and get 72 virgins.I'd just torture the **** out of them until they get the message and then i'd lock them up with some far right skin heads in prison.

That's messed up and I hope you never get into power of any kind.

Kazanne · 07-11-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

They need to bring back a mandatory death sentence for treason - and if they are living in this great country and probably availing themselves of every soft benefit going, whilst plotting to murder its citizens and destroy our democracy - then they are fking treacherous bastards and need executing.

They are not 'Soldiers of Islam or Allah, or 'The One-Eyed Yellow Idol To The North Of Katmandu' - they are despicable, **** cnt murdering cowards and traitors.

Well said Kirk,this lily livered approach Britain has ,has done us no good at all.

Northern Monkey · 07-11-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well said Kirk,this lily livered approach Britain has ,has done us no good at all.

Exactly,A deterant is what's needed.I'm not one for the death sentence but i would lock them up in the nastiest prison i could find with people who don't take kindly to having religious loons try and blow them or their families up.After a spell in Guantanamo.

arista · 07-11-2014, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Well said Arista.

Thanks Kirk

Livia · 07-11-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yeah, and whose fault is that? If we stopped invading their countries maybe they would back off a bit.

Exactly. Torture is wrong and if we advocate it towards members of ISIS then we cannot complain when they do the same back to people on our side.

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well said Kirk,this lily livered approach Britain has ,has done us no good at all.

Thanks Kaz.

kirklancaster · 07-11-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

Do I fkng LOVE this ballsy woman.