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Old 27-01-2018, 10:59 PM #1
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Default Is Age and Generation an excuse for Widdicombes bigoted beliefs ?

I d say not because there aren t many in Ann s generation as bigoted as her.
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Is age an excuse for controlling ignorance.
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Who cares she’s more interesting than anyone else in there
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It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.
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I d say not because there aren t many in Ann s generation as bigoted as her.
I would say, you don't know what you are talking about.

How many more bashing Ann threads are you going to start.

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It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.
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Who cares she’s more interesting than anyone else in there
Correct, but that doesn't negate any serious discussion about her views. She can be both a great housemate and a terrible person, the two are always mutually exclusive no matter who it is
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Correct, but that doesn't negate any serious discussion about her views. She can be both a great housemate and a terrible person, the two are always mutually exclusive no matter who it is
Sure but there have been like 10000 threads on this already Were all just going round in circles
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she's a terrible human being and age is no excuse, it's not hard.
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Sure but there have been like 10000 threads on this already Were all just going round in circles
That's on season for you
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I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes
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I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes
I mean yeah relative to every other season she’s been very boring

But this is cbb21 we’re talking about

Literally nothing happens

You really start to appreciate the finer things, she’d fall into insignificance in a house with any more than 1other good housemate
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I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes
She's been the only one since India left to cause any sort of conflict this series
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I don't get how she's a good housemate either. Outside of a few amusing moments all she's done is judge and roll her eyes
That's literally why she's a good housemate though. The eye rolling, the prudishness and the self-censorship some of the housemates have felt around her are all AWFUL traits that I find annoying in a person, but in a pretty drab series she's been one of the only causes of tension because of it.

People who are difficult to live with usually make the best housemates
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I would say, you don't know what you are talking about.

How many more bashing Ann threads are you going to start.
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It's a reason certainly, but it doesn't make it any less bigoted.

She's entitled to it, but let's not excuse it.
Sums up what I think tbh.
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It's hard to train a persons way of thinking when they have grown up in a generation that finds certain things unacceptable.
Ann has tolerated it to some extent...her eye rolling says it all though. Maybe it's not an excuse...but as much as we expect Ann to accept it and understand it..shouldnt we give her the same understanding and accept that it's very much a generation thing?
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It's hard to train a persons way of thinking when they have grown up in a generation that finds certain things unacceptable.
Ann has tolerated it to some extent...her eye rolling says it all though. Maybe it's not an excuse...but as much as we expect Ann to accept it and understand it..shouldnt we give her the same understanding and accept that it's very much a generation thing?
I don't think anyone hasn't accepted they're her opinions and are formed via a different life experience, as are everyones. However, that doesn't give her the immunity from having her opinions and views questioned and examined by others. Particularly as, as a politician, her views are very much public.

It's not only her entitled to her views.
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All people are allowed to have their views, other people are allowed to critique those views or anyone's views.

Ann is entitled to her homophobic views, everyone else is entitled to comment on their views. Age or generation is not a shield from criticism.
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She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.
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She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.
Well said, I've tried saying it over and over.

People don't get the irony of insisting that everyone hate someone because of their views and lifestyle.

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She doesn't have "bigoted beliefs" nor does she act like a bigot. She simply has different opinions to the currently fashionable views on certain issues. It's those of you who cannot deal with the fact that a person disagrees with you who are bigots.
Just like racists "simply have a different opinion".

Your statement has the depth of a puddle.
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Not entirely her age or her generation, more to do with her religion.
A mixture of all three give her a different view on it all, she doesn't like PDA's in general, again can be put down to all three.
I dont think she is anti homosexuals so much as the sanctity of marriage being for a man and a woman. She has said herself what goes on behind closed doors is not a problem to her.
If that is a bigoted view then so be it, but could the same be said for anyone discounting her right to those views based on her religion?
As long as she hadn't made a personal or malicious attack verbally or otherwise whilst in the house then I can't fault her as a housemate.
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Just like racists "simply have a different opinion".
Another word like "Homophobe" that has no objective meaning and is used to suppress dissenting views on certain issues.

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Your statement has the depth of a puddle.
Whereas yours was full of profound insights.
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