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17-02-2020, 11:02 AM | #1 | ||
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Labour is calling for the immediate sacking of a Tory adviser over his controversial remarks about pregnancy, race and women’s sport. Oxbridge-educated Andrew Sabisky is working as a No 10 adviser, having been appointed after chief aide Dominic Cummings put out a job description for “misfits and weirdos” to join him in trying to shake up government. The 27-year-old, who is contracted on specific projects and is not a permanent staffer, wrote on Cummings’ website in 2014 than in order to get around unplanned pregnancies in the UK, there should be the legal enforcement of long-term contraception. “One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies, creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception and the onset of puberty,” he wrote. “Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue.” In another post circulated on Twitter, Sabisky claimed black Americans had a lower average IQ than white people and were more likely to have an “intellectual disability”. He also tweeted: “I am always straight up in saying that women’s sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men’s.” Jon Trickett MP, Labour’s shadow cabinet office minister, said: “There are really no words to describe Boris Johnson’s appointment as one of his senior advisers a man who is on record as supporting the forced sterilisation of people he considers not worthy. He must of course be removed from this position immediately.” Labour MP David Lammy condemned Sabisky’s post about the IQs of black and white Americans as “dangerous claptrap”. He tweeted: “Andrew Sabisky has some very ugly views, but depressingly he’s not alone. There is a resurgent belief in Eugenics across fringes of the right. It’s dangerous claptrap. Skin colour has no more relevance to an individual’s intelligence than their hair colour.” Sabisky, who describes himself as a political forecaster, has also deleted tweets calling Labour MPs Angela Rayner, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Yvette Cooper “dim”. His hiring has been widely criticised on social media, with many questioning how he got through strict government vetting processes. In an interview he did in 2016 Sabisky said he was interested in narcolepsy drug modafinil, which also cuts the need for sleep in healthy people by two-thirds and potentially helps brain function. There is also evidence of a higher risk of people getting Stevens-Johnson syndrome, a life-threatening skin condition. “From a societal perspective the benefits of giving everyone modafinil once a week are probably worth a dead kid once a year,” he said. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rb-pregnancies 27 year old sociopath advising the government Last edited by Twosugars; 18-02-2020 at 03:44 PM. |
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17-02-2020, 11:11 AM | #2 | |||
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Yes he is still there.
They are not going to comment on this. Last edited by arista; 17-02-2020 at 11:12 AM. |
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17-02-2020, 11:48 AM | #3 | |||
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Him talking about people's IQ whilst being openly racist on Twitter.
The irony.
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17-02-2020, 12:14 PM | #4 | |||
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Nobody of any importance cares what Labour think. They're finished.
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17-02-2020, 12:46 PM | #5 | |||
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How long have I been saying the conservatives are sympathetic to the concept of reintroducing eugenics?...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9339296.html
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17-02-2020, 02:25 PM | #6 | ||
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It's sad that you've got Tories literally calling for the forced sterilisation of the same class as most tory voters yet you just know that any of them that read this story will be like 'BUT LABOUR!?!!!!'
The country has no hope when Tory voters have such blind reverence for the party that they can't criticise them for **** like this. |
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17-02-2020, 03:48 PM | #7 | |||
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Not like us.
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The tories: the left are elitists that look down on you
Also the tories: Let's stop working class people breeding?
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17-02-2020, 03:54 PM | #8 | |||
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didnt he say these things six years ago, what has this to do with the Government?
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17-02-2020, 04:29 PM | #9 | ||
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Boris Johnson’s spokesman has refused to say whether the prime minister thinks black people have lower IQs on average, or agrees with eugenics, after No 10 hired an adviser with highly controversial views.
In a tense briefing with the media, the prime minister’s deputy official spokesman declined several times to distance Johnson from the views of his adviser, Andrew Sabisky, who has suggested “enforced contraception” be used to prevent the creation of a “permanent underclass”. Labour has called on No 10 to sack Sabisky, who is believed to be contracted by Downing Street under Johnson’s de facto chief of staff, Dominic Cummings, to work on special projects. Johnson’s official spokesman refused to comment on Sabisky, his controversial views, or whether the prime minister agreed with them. “The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented,” the spokesman said more than 10 times, when asked to give Johnson’s views on the intelligence of black people and eugenics, the study of methods to selectively breed people to improve the human race. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-of-racial-iq Coward. The scandal is growing. |
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17-02-2020, 05:51 PM | #10 | ||
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Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, tweeted: “These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating (or allowing to be generated). They need to get a grip fast and demonstrate some basic but fundamental values in the terms of our public debate.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-of-racial-iq Nicola there. That's what proper leader sounds like. |
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17-02-2020, 07:13 PM | #11 | |||
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17-02-2020, 11:04 PM | #12 | ||
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A controversial new adviser to Boris Johnson resigned on Monday night after MPs and experts accused No 10 of condoning his controversial claims that intelligence is linked to race.
Andrew Sabisky, who was brought into Downing Street by Johnson’s senior aide Dominic Cummings as part of his appeal for “misfits and weirdos”, became the subject of intense media scrutiny after details emerged of his views on subjects ranging from black people’s IQs to whether benefits claimants should be encouraged to have fewer children. But amid mounting criticism within the Conservative party after No 10 stood by the appointment, Sabisky said that he would be stepping down as a “contractor” to No 10. He tweeted: “The media hysteria about my old stuff online is mad but I wanted to help [the government] not be a distraction. Accordingly I’ve decided to resign as a contractor. I hope No 10 hires more [people with] good geopolitical forecasting track records and that media learn to stop selective quoting.” The news of Sabisky’s exit came despite the government’s apparent determination to ride out the controversy, with a Downing Street spokesman refusing to answer more than 30 questions from reporters on whether Boris Johnson agreed with Sabisky’s views. His resignation represents a defeat for Cummings, Johnson’s most powerful aide, whose abrasive approach to government is causing consternation among some Tories and is thought to be partly behind Sajid Javid’s departure as chancellor. Sabisky, a 27-year-old who describes himself as a “superforecaster”, had been contracted to work on special projects for Cummings, who had said in a job ad that he was seeking a team “to find and exploit, without worrying about media noise… ‘very high leverage ideas’ [that] these will almost inevitably seem bad to most.” But a political furore broke out after some of Sabisky’s past writings on genetics emerged over the weekend. In one post from 2014, he suggested that politicians should pay attention to “very real racial differences in intelligence” when designing the immigration system, and another from that year suggested black people on average have lower IQs than white people. In a book review, he also argued that benefit claimants “tend to be less conscientious and agreeable” and should be encouraged to have fewer children than people in work with more “pro-social personalities”. Ian Lavery, the Labour party chair, said Johnson still has questions to answer about how and why Sabisky was ever appointed. “It’s right that Andrew Sabisky is no longer working in government. He should never have been appointed in the first place,” he said. “After Number 10 publicly stood by him today, Boris Johnson has serious questions to answer about how this appointment was made and whether he agrees with his vile views.” With Downing Street remaining silent, John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, said the appointment was a direct reflection on Johnson’s leadership. “You can’t have people with these views operating at the heart of your government unless you agree with them. For Johnson to refuse to act and to condemn these views says as much about himself as it does about Sabisky.” Some Tory MPs also began to question No 10’s judgement in having hired Sabisky. Caroline Nokes, the Tory chair of the women and equalities committee, was the first Conservative to go on the record to criticise No 10’s handling of the situation. “Cannot believe No 10 has refused to comment on Andrew Sabisky. I don’t know him from a bar of soap, but don’t think we’d get on ... must be no place in government for the views he’s expressed,” she said. A second Tory MP, William Wragg, broke cover on Monday evening, saying Sabisky “needs to go” and arguing that his presence in No 10 was “a poor reflection on the government and there is no way to defend it”. “‘Weirdos’ and ‘misfits’ are all very well, but please can they not gratuitously cause offence. I cannot be the only one uncomfortable with recent No 10 trends,” he added. The calls for Sabisky’s departure became more concerted on Monday as more examples of his previous writings emerged. Another internet posting from 2014 suggested the government could “legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty” to help prevent a “permanent underclass”. In 2015, Sabisky also proposed IQ tests for all 11-year-olds to help distribute money to schools, based on variation in intelligence rather than the economic background of their parents - an idea that Cummings described as “reasonable”, although “politically untouchable” unless a research programme on education and IQ could be launched. It is understood several Tory politicians from black and minority ethnic backgrounds had made representations to No 10 about how the row of Sabisky’s appointment was damaging for the party’s relations with the black community. One Conservative MP from a BME background said: “I’m not necessarily against hiring intellectually interesting people with sometimes controversial views, but this guy just doesn’t seem very smart, and if you are not very smart and at the very least appear bigoted that cannot be a good look for the party. By all means we should be against ultra-woke nonsense, but we should also stand against alt-right nonsense too.” Another said No 10’s refusal to take a clear line on accusations of racism was “severely damaging” to its standing with voters. At least one Tory special adviser had also threatened to boycott meetings where Sabisky was present. Dr Adam Rutherford, a geneticist and author, accused Sabisky and Cummings of being “bewitched by science, without having made the effort to understand the areas he is invoking, nor its history”. He said the “moral repugnance” of the remarks was “overwhelming”, adding: “I am all for scientifically minded people advising government ... [but] this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics.” After some of Sabisky’s controversial writings were highlighted, No 10 was asked at its regular Monday morning press briefing to clarify whether Johnson believed in eugenics or that black people had on average lower IQs than white people. Johnson’s deputy official spokesman declined to comment beyond saying: “The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented.” Asked repeatedly to point to where Johnson’s views were documented, he declined to answer. The spokesman also distanced No 10 from the remarks of Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, who said over the weekend that Sabisky’s comments were “not my views and those are not the views of the government”, saying the cabinet minister was speaking only for himself when he made that statement. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...enics-writings |
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17-02-2020, 11:07 PM | #13 | ||
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Was the no screening of his appointment or they took his views in their stride?
Is Cummings trying to bring eugenics back? Unbelievable... |
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17-02-2020, 11:11 PM | #14 | |||
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It can go and join the Bronski Beat singer singing along with a Busker.
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18-02-2020, 01:11 AM | #15 | |||
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18-02-2020, 10:14 AM | #16 | |||
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Cancel culture.
If this guy can loose his job for his opinions from 6 years ago, can Dawn Butler loose hers, for her opinions from yestetday? Last edited by Alf; 18-02-2020 at 10:22 AM. |
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18-02-2020, 11:25 AM | #17 | |||
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Dawn Butler is advocating Labours approach to gender recognition is all, I don't agree with it myself but they are the views of the party (as is) not only Dawn.
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18-02-2020, 11:30 AM | #18 | |||
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Hopefully this will be a lesson learned that employers should check out prospective employees' public social media when hiring for influential positions.
It's good his views were never censored, or those views wouldn't have come to light and he'd still be in Cumming's ear... Quote:
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18-02-2020, 12:40 PM | #19 | |||
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18-02-2020, 01:45 PM | #20 | ||
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Apparently someone found his reddit account and its on a whole other level
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18-02-2020, 01:49 PM | #21 | |||
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18-02-2020, 02:23 PM | #22 | |||
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Back... has is ever really gone?
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18-02-2020, 02:40 PM | #23 | ||
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18-02-2020, 02:42 PM | #24 | |||
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he just put an idea forward
are we now banning kids form having ideas? |
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18-02-2020, 02:47 PM | #25 | ||
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