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arista · 18-10-2015, 07:54 AM

Feck me we are taking 20,000
USA is only having 10,000.

Open up the back of your Empty Church Halls
put up multi bunkbeds 20 high
and Bishop - You Fecking have them
with your Utter crazy 50,000 of them , number.

http://news.sky.com/story/1571453/bi...-more-refugees

He was just live On SkyNewsHD
I wanted to jump in my TV and Slapp that Bishop.

LeatherTrumpet · 18-10-2015, 09:47 AM

Bunch of old men who get paid to lie to people talking bollocks shock

joeysteele · 18-10-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Feck me we are taking 20,000
USA is only having 10,000.

Open up the back of your Empty Church Halls
put up multi bunkbeds 20 high
and Bishop - You Fecking have them
with your Utter crazy 50,000 of them , number.

http://news.sky.com/story/1571453/bi...-more-refugees

He was just live On SkyNewsHD
I wanted to jump in my TV and Slapp that Bishop.

I agree totally with that part of your post.

However I do agree with the Bishops that the 20,000 figure is pathetic and since it is David Camerons style, it doesn't surprise me that on an issue he knows he is wrong on that he gives at best a token response to their communication.

Kizzy · 18-10-2015, 10:24 AM

Church leaders have been saying Camerons attitude to the poor and needy had been rubbish for years, this is just another in a long line to reaffirm this.

arista · 18-10-2015, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree totally with that part of your post.

However I do agree with the Bishops that the 20,000 figure is pathetic and since it is David Camerons style, it doesn't surprise me that on an issue he knows he is wrong on that he gives at best a token response to their communication.

Look taking 20,000
and Bigger Fecking America is only taking 10,000
so No Joey
Dave is doing good
plus we are Co-Funding the camps
outside of
Deadly Syria (a New Russian Co-Nation with Assad)

So I take my Hat off to Dave
doing so much.

joeysteele · 18-10-2015, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Look taking 20,000
and Bigger Fecking America is only taking 10,000
so No Joey
Dave is doing good
plus we are Co-Funding the camps
outside of
Deadly Syria (a New Russian Co-Nation with Assad)

So I take my Hat off to Dave
doing so much.

He is not doing anywhere near enough in my view.

arista · 18-10-2015, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is not doing anywhere near enough in my view.

You do not have all the facts
But your view is your opinion.

I heard many Labour people
say Dave is doing the Best he Can,
(Ref Daily Politics, SkyNewsHD,GMBHD, Radio5 AM)

This Bishop
can Build Multi Bunk Beds
Errect mobile bogs
and mobile sinks
in his many Dead Churches
if he does that I will thank him personally

joeysteele · 18-10-2015, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

You do not have all the facts
But your view is your opinion.

I heard many Labour people
say Dave is doing the Best he Can,
(Ref Daily Politics, SkyNewsHD,GMBHD, Radio5 AM)

This Bishop
can Build Multi Bunk Beds
Errect mobile bogs
and mobile sinks
in his many Dead Churches
if he does that I will thank him personally

I don't myself think this is an issue where you can decide what to do in advance,it is an ongoing crisis and it could get far worse.

Putting figures on peoples lives and futures like he has is pathetic, he should be saying for now this is what we will do and leaving the door open to full review and increase if necessary, not if desired.

That is what any leader worth anything would do and then be leading rather than sitting scratching round to see what further crumbs he can throw to appear to be doing something.

No one argues he is not doing something, however all he is doing falls far short of that is needed and also the attitude he should be taking as to it too.

arista · 18-10-2015, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I don't myself think this is an issue where you can decide what to do in advance,it is an ongoing crisis and it could get far worse.

Putting figures on peoples lives and futures like he has is pathetic, he should be saying for now this is what we will do and leaving the door open to full review and increase if necessary, not if desired.

That is what any leader worth anything would do and then be leading rather than sitting scratching round to see what further crumbs he can throw to appear to be doing something.

No one argues he is not doing something, however all he is doing falls far short of that is needed and also the attitude he should be taking as to it too.

No a Billion Pounds to those camps
is Mega High.
No Way does Dave fall short

JoshBB · 18-10-2015, 11:15 AM

50,000 over 5 years seems more like it.

I mean, 10k doesnt compare to what the other countries are taking but I think it would be a great improvement. But yeah.. the churches could be doing so much more as well, like turning their halls into places where they can live.

joeysteele · 18-10-2015, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

No a Billion Pounds to those camps
is Mega High.
No Way does Dave fall short

The conditions in the camps are not improving adequately however, so in fact the money he has thrown at this to try to avoid real physical and necessary action, has not been the help it should or could have been.

arista · 18-10-2015, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB

50,000 over 5 years seems more like it.

I mean, 10k doesnt compare to what the other countries are taking but I think it would be a great improvement. But yeah.. the churches could be doing so much more as well, like turning their halls into places where they can live.

No Josh we do not have the Housing
for more than 20,000
our own young must come first

arista · 18-10-2015, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The conditions in the camps are not improving adequately however, so in fact the money he has thrown at this to try to avoid real physical and necessary action, has not been the help it should or could have been.

Changes are slow
But USA and UK Funding is saving them,

Meanwhile
Syria is to become a Co -Russian Nation
so that means they can not return
sadly

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Johnnyuk123 · 18-10-2015, 12:56 PM

Seeing as half the churches are empty why doesnt this bishop offer to put them up there?

smudgie · 18-10-2015, 01:56 PM

Get the Bishops to dip their hands in their own pockets and give a hand.
The answer isn't ever open doors it is more a question of throwing money at the ever open mouths for now.
Feed the hungry, keep them warm and above all...safe.

arista · 18-10-2015, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Seeing as half the churches are empty why doesnt this bishop offer to put them up there?

Locals will not allow him

arista · 18-10-2015, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie

Get the Bishops to dip their hands in their own pockets and give a hand.
The answer isn't ever open doors it is more a question of throwing money at the ever open mouths for now.
Feed the hungry, keep them warm and above all...safe.

Yes It made me so angry on Live AM
SkyNewsHD
I wanted to Slapp that Bishop speaking,

Bishops have also Been on BBCNewsHD
and to go on some local news this evening
and Ch4HD News later tonight

jennyjuniper · 18-10-2015, 02:56 PM

If he will put them up in his Bishops's palace, all well and good. Otherwise no.

arista · 18-10-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

If he will put them up in his Bishops's palace, all well and good. Otherwise no.

He said Live he has no room.
He can have Guests in for dinner
but no more room in his Massive Home

Kazanne · 18-10-2015, 05:10 PM

I think we have quite enough as it is.

Marsh. · 18-10-2015, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Look taking 20,000
and Bigger Fecking America is only taking 10,000
so No Joey
Dave is doing good
plus we are Co-Funding the camps
outside of
Deadly Syria (a New Russian Co-Nation with Assad)

So I take my Hat off to Dave
doing so much.

Just because America is doing worse, doesn't mean what we're doing is the best we're capable of.

JoshBB · 18-10-2015, 05:18 PM

I really hate the tone of this debate right now.

Why are we so focused on who should take these refugees rather than helping them? Instead of thinking 'oh no, this country won't take any.. this is awful they need to be helping out these poor people', we are saying 'oh look. this country won't take any therefore we shouldn't either'.

Take these bishops and countries like Saudi Arabia out of the equation. Should we help those who are desperate, helpless, and will probably die without our intervention? Absolutely. I hope our country is on the right side of history here.

Kazanne · 18-10-2015, 05:28 PM

People have been moaning for ages that WE haven't got enough for our own people ,so do you think letting thousands of others in will help that ? We can only do so much.

Livia · 18-10-2015, 05:34 PM

The suggestions that we should open up church halls to house the refugees is an interesting one. Especially in the light of the number of homeless people we already have here, and have had for a long time. It makes me wonder why people haven't demanded this for our own homeless.

JoshBB · 18-10-2015, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

People have been moaning for ages that WE haven't got enough for our own people ,so do you think letting thousands of others in will help that ? We can only do so much.

Well **** those people, most of them are xenophobes anyway. The governments housing policy is to blame, not migrants.

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