[Denver]

Sunak has confirmed if the Tories pull up an unlikely win at the next General Election they will put plans in motion that will see all 18 year olds face 1 year national service

[LeatherTrumpet]

[Black Dagger]

Officially ran out of ideas

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Officially ran out of ideas

The UK has thousands of problems but National Service isn't one and should have been bottom of any list of pledges

[joeysteele]

I wouldn't support that.

The Cons certainly seem to like TELLING people what to do in their lives rather than ASKING them.
I went to University at 18, there's no way I'd have been impressed if I'd had to go into National Service.
No way, not a chance.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wouldn't support that.

The Cons certainly seem to like TELLING people what to do in their lives rather than ASKING them.

asking young people?

that is a massive mistake

they don't know their rear ends from their elbows

have a look at the twats at our unis

total woke mind virus rockets

[UserSince2005]

smart to give a load of 18 year old jihadis a gun.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

asking young people?

that is a massive mistake

they don't know their rear ends from their elbows

have a look at the twats at our unis

total woke mind virus rockets

UK citizens are considered adult at 18.
So yes, consulting and asking first is the decent thing to do.

When we had National Service before when the adult age was deemed to be 21.
It had to be between 18 to 21.
Not at or after 21.

I hear from younger people often far more sense than from more bigoted people who are a lot older and actually delude themselves into thinking they're an example to others.
Huh!

[Denver]

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

[bitontheslide]

people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

[Mystic Mock]

It's a good thing that they're not winning the Election then.

And I can tell that David Cameron is back in the party with this policy rearing it's ugly head again.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Denver

It's funny how everyone who is supporting this didn't actually do national service themselves, maybe we should backdate it and have them go first

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

Do you think it'll be fought like it was back in the WWII days?

Russia can barely handle Ukraine, they'd be crazy to come for the UK in the same manner.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's a good thing that they're not winning the Election then.

And I can tell that David Cameron is back in the party with this policy rearing it's ugly head again.

You're dead right on that Mock.

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has left it too late.


Should have done it a year ago


He will not win the Election.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people need to wake up. We have war on our doorstep. We will have to move to a war footing whatever party wins the election

Yes would help all 18-year-olds



Of Course,
Sunak is not going to win.

All polls taken, say he is to be kicked out


Also this is just a Weekend or so.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

He has left it too late.


Should have done it a year ago


He will now win the Election.

The National Service policy is too divisive to ever win a party the Election.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The National Service policy is too divisive to ever win a party the Election.

Yes a dream


Thank You Wise Katy Balls
who said it would not start until 2029


WW3 is likely before then

[MTVN]

The actual plan is this:

It said 18-year-olds would have a choice of either joining the military full-time for 12 months, or volunteering one weekend every month carrying out a community service.

The party is proposing a Royal Commission to consider the details but would plan for the first teenagers to take part in September 2025.

The cost is expected to be around Ł2.5bn per year.

Under the plans, young people could choose a full-time placement in the armed forces or UK cyber defence, learning about logistics, cyber security, procurement or civil response operations.

Their other option would be to volunteer one weekend per month - or 25 days per year - in their community with organisations such as fire, police and the NHS.

Which is not quite as onerous. Interestingly it is still used in the majority of countries in the world including many of those which are seen as quite progressive. Denmark recently expanded their national service to also include all women of the relevant age

[Ammi]

…I would say that he’s just alienated many potential votes of many young people…as well as their parents…and grandparents…and aunts and uncles and etc…

[arista]

If you refuse

NO jail.

Home Secretary On Trevor Phillips SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I would say that he’s just alienated many potential votes of many young people…as well as their parents…and grandparents…and aunts and uncles and etc…

But you can refuse

[Ammi]

…so it’s not really National Service, then…

[joeysteele]

Now after his announcement he's clouding the issue again.

This PMs deceit is unbelievable.
It cannot be National Service if any kind that has to be done but still can be voluntary.

So just what is this useless and incompetent proposing.

I say again.
Dictating to people who are adults that they must do something like this is neither good governing or even respectful.

I was at Uni at 18.
I'd have refused to do any of this whatever he's proposing.
So if I had, what would he have done about that.

This is what he does, fires a badly thought out idea then confuses and divides afterwards.

If it's mandatory then it's not voluntary.
Surely even Fishy Sunak can work that one out.

[LeatherTrumpet]

send them to Israel for 12 months to get trained up and help there