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LeatherTrumpet · 22-02-2010, 01:17 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...t-academy.html

"The mosque would have a large dome and two 100ft minarets positioned 400 yards from the parade ground. "

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WOMBAI · 22-02-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...t-academy.html

"The mosque would have a large dome and two 100ft minarets positioned 400 yards from the parade ground. "

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Personally - I support the objections - they make sense - in these fragile times! I also hope such a building, wherever it is built - is funded by those that would use it and not the general tax-payer!

InOne · 22-02-2010, 01:51 PM

They have enough Mosques, plus a little bit of travel would not kill them either!

cupid stunt · 22-02-2010, 02:42 PM

why does our government bend over backwards to lick every muslim nutter's arsehole?

bananarama · 23-02-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cupid stunt

why does our government bend over backwards to lick every muslim nutter's arsehole?

Simple....."VOTES"

Sticks · 23-02-2010, 06:54 AM

Why shouldn't the muslims have their own place of worship? It's attitudes like this that extremists can use to radicalise young muslims. According to my sources, when muslims move into an area crime rate goes down, and before he retired the owner of a Halal take away and I had great conversations about his faith and mine.

As for the offensive remark by the poster two posts above this one, this is not a case of the government being over accommmodating. It is actually the oposite as it is a government body, the MOD who is objecting to a planning application.

Isolating this community is not the way to defeat the extremists as that plays into their hands, it is integration that is the key to defeating them, as I observed with conversations with the former owner of the Halal take away.

Sticks · 23-02-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne

They have enough Mosques, plus a little bit of travel would not kill them either!

So would you say this about a Christian church building, a Jewish Synagogue or a hindu or Seikh temple?

If not, do you realise how offensive that sounds?

Sticks · 23-02-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Personally - I support the objections - they make sense - in these fragile times! I also hope such a building, wherever it is built - is funded by those that would use it and not the general tax-payer!

These buildings are 100% funded by the users. Public money is not used in their construction.

Arneldo · 23-02-2010, 07:24 AM

I thought this said "Starburst academy" - I was like "woah! i wanna go there!"

LeatherTrumpet · 23-02-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Why shouldn't the muslims have their own place of worship? It's attitudes like this that extremists can use to radicalise young muslims. According to my sources, when muslims move into an area crime rate goes down, and before he retired the owner of a Halal take away and I had great conversations about his faith and mine.

As for the offensive remark by the poster two posts above this one, this is not a case of the government being over accommmodating. It is actually the oposite as it is a government body, the MOD who is objecting to a planning application.

Isolating this community is not the way to defeat the extremists as that plays into their hands, it is integration that is the key to defeating them, as I observed with conversations with the former owner of the Halal take away.

are you missing the point about what Sandhurst is here?

no one is objecting to mosques per se but they do not want one in that specific location. It makes sense in this current climate. If you want a scapegoat blame extremists.

LeatherTrumpet · 23-02-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

So would you say this about a Christian church building, a Jewish Synagogue or a hindu or Seikh temple?

If not, do you realise how offensive that sounds?

as i understand it none of the above have many young believers in this country who think the UK is the enemy and want to kill thousands of its citizens

or did i miss a panarama?

karezza · 23-02-2010, 10:35 AM

Islam is an attavistic, misogynistic, brainwashing cult that wants to terrorise the world into becoming Muslim.

Shasown · 23-02-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

So would you say this about a Christian church building, a Jewish Synagogue or a hindu or Seikh temple?

If not, do you realise how offensive that sounds?

Its not about whether its a mosque, synagogue, church with spire, mandir (Hindu) gurdwara (Sikh). Its simply a security measure as the height of parts of the building, the dome and minarets, would overlook the main parade ground of the Sandhurst Military Academy. The same objections would be lodged against any building which would compromise the security in the same way.

This would allow easy observation not only of the officer recruits, training staff, visiting dignitaries, security specialists including special forces and police undercover operatives etc who go to brief the recruit officers during the course of their training. Royal family members hold numerous honorary positions in various Army regiments and as such act as dignitaries for parades and other occassions.

The Academy is also used for other training courses of Army Officers during their careers.

cupid stunt · 23-02-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Why shouldn't the muslims have their own place of worship? It's attitudes like this that extremists can use to radicalise young muslims. According to my sources, when muslims move into an area crime rate goes down, and before he retired the owner of a Halal take away and I had great conversations about his faith and mine.

As for the offensive remark by the poster two posts above this one, this is not a case of the government being over accommmodating. It is actually the oposite as it is a government body, the MOD who is objecting to a planning application.

Isolating this community is not the way to defeat the extremists as that plays into their hands, it is integration that is the key to defeating them, as I observed with conversations with the former owner of the Halal take away.

because they have enuff friggin mosques already why wud they want 2 build 1 next to army academy? to piss english ppl off thats why
look at bradford u go up there its like spot the white man

the extermists need there bollocks cutting off time to stop wrappin em up in cotton wool
this bits bollocks n all, the crime rate goes down because no ****er wants to live in a curry area, the young pakistani lads all run around thinkin there black dont know whether to laugh or cry sumtimes!

cupid stunt · 23-02-2010, 10:54 AM

and that **** anjem chourdray id luv to kick the ***** head back to pakistan

ElProximo · 23-02-2010, 10:54 AM

I know that a lot of perfectly wealthy white Brits are going to make ongoing 'white guilt' bemoaning and self-effacing apologies and fake outrage etc etc,
but,
Yeah, in this case I think it really does come down to plain and simple security risk - regardless of whatever organization.
It does become a much greater risk because it is a mosque but that is really an 'additional concern' but not even the point here.
It isn't even complicated.

cupid stunt · 23-02-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Why shouldn't the muslims have their own place of worship? It's attitudes like this that extremists can use to radicalise young muslims. According to my sources, when muslims move into an area crime rate goes down, and before he retired the owner of a Halal take away and I had great conversations about his faith and mine.

As for the offensive remark by the poster two posts above this one, this is not a case of the government being over accommmodating. It is actually the oposite as it is a government body, the MOD who is objecting to a planning application.

Isolating this community is not the way to defeat the extremists as that plays into their hands, it is integration that is the key to defeating them, as I observed with conversations with the former owner of the Halal take away.

ISOLATING? HAHA THATS A JOKE if anything we been far 2 accomodating 2 these al queada taliban bastards, i apreciate that most muslims prob just want 2 get on with there lives, but the NUTTERS who want muslims to take over england still stay, intergration will not stop these nutcases from hating the west, it will just help them to disguise themselfs

cupid stunt · 23-02-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by karezza

Islam is an attavistic, misogynistic, brainwashing cult that wants to terrorise the world into becoming Muslim.

now this lads got his head screwed on right u got the nail bang on the head there pal

InOne · 23-02-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

So would you say this about a Christian church building, a Jewish Synagogue or a hindu or Seikh temple?

If not, do you realise how offensive that sounds?

I'm against all religions, mosques are not exactly small are they!! They are very dominant buildings. It's not offensive it's practical.

cupid stunt · 24-02-2010, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

So would you say this about a Christian church building, a Jewish Synagogue or a hindu or Seikh temple?

If not, do you realise how offensive that sounds?

THIS IS OUR COUNTRY, IF THEY DONT LIKE IT THEN THEY CAN **** OFF OUT OF IT
WHY DONT U GO 2 PAKISTAN N TRY BUILD A CHURCH SEE HOW FAR U GET

teamandre · 24-02-2010, 09:12 AM

Ture we wouldnt get very far and its a bad idear building it next ot an army acdamey wtf are tehy thinking but hay if they wanner get shot then on their headas be it!

BB_Eye · 24-02-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks

Why shouldn't the muslims have their own place of worship? It's attitudes like this that extremists can use to radicalise young muslims. According to my sources, when muslims move into an area crime rate goes down, and before he retired the owner of a Halal take away and I had great conversations about his faith and mine.

As for the offensive remark by the poster two posts above this one, this is not a case of the government being over accommmodating. It is actually the oposite as it is a government body, the MOD who is objecting to a planning application.

Isolating this community is not the way to defeat the extremists as that plays into their hands, it is integration that is the key to defeating them, as I observed with conversations with the former owner of the Halal take away.

Quite right. Whether they build the mosque or not makes no difference. London is an inchoate smorgasboard of architectural clashes anyway. It seems even city folk can be small-minded.