[Calderyon]

Jedward 5/6 - Shortening
James C 7/2
Kim 9/2 - Drifting
Coleen 7 - Shortening
Bianca 25
Nicola 33

http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/celebr...brother/winner

Jedward & Coleen shortening, Kim drifting across the board.

[Niamh.]

what does shortening and drifting mean (I'm not a gambler lol)

[RichardG]

coleen is going to win isn't she, bots were screaming for her last night

in a top two with cosmo

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

what does shortening and drifting mean (I'm not a gambler lol)

Oddds shortening is good. Means Jedward have more chance of winning!

[chuff me dizzy]

Jedward are NOT shortening they have been this price all week ,the betting odds have been very stable for days now,this is why I started a thread about it yesterday ,Jedward are not firm enough favs to say no one can catch them

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

what does shortening and drifting mean (I'm not a gambler lol)

Shortening means (technically*) that the bookies think they are more likely to win and you will therefore get less money back for whatever you put on. Drifting means the opposite - less likely to win, more money back if they do.

* I say TECHNICALLY because bookies also manipulate odds for other reasons, for example, to attract bets to a selection that they do NOT think will win. They will cut the odds on a horse / team / BB housemate etc. to make people think "Ooooooh they must be more likely to win I will bet on them!!" when actually that is exactly what the bookie is trying to get you to do...

Odds are also affected by simply how much money has been bet on a selection. The more money has been placed across the country, the more the odds will come in to compensate. That said, for something like reality TV, looking at how much money has been bet on a contestant is actually quite a good indicator of how popular they are.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Oddds shortening is good. Means Jedward have more chance of winning!

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Shortening means (technically*) that the bookies think they are more likely to win and you will therefore get less money back for whatever you put on. Drifting means the opposite - less likely to win, more money back if they do.

* I say TECHNICALLY because bookies also manipulate odds for other reasons, for example, to attract bets to a selection that they do NOT think will win. They will cut the odds on a horse / team / BB housemate etc. to make people think "Ooooooh they must be more likely to win I will bet on them!!" when actually that is exactly what the bookie is trying to get you to do...

Odds are also affected by simply how much money has been bet on a selection. The more money has been placed across the country, the more the odds will come in to compensate. That said, for something like reality TV, looking at how much money has been bet on a contestant is actually quite a good indicator of how popular they are.

This is why I don't gamble

[user104658]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Jedward are NOT shortening they have been this price all week ,the betting odds have been very stable for days now,this is why I started a thread about it yesterday ,Jedward are not firm enough favs to say no one can catch them

They are shortening slightly, you could still get evens on them yesterday whereas now they are odds-on across every betting site. Your best price is 10/11. It's not a significant change really but it is still shortening odds. Oddschecker is colour-coded to show exactly that. Blue shortening, red drifting, white unchanged.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

This is why I don't gamble

It's why I *only* gamble on reality events, if you follow twitter / FB "buzz" you can get some great odds. Helen Wood is still my best coup . 33/1. Bear was also an easy win with good odds, as was (sadly!) Trump . I haven't bet this year, there's not a huge amount of value left on the board, I wish I had bet on Jedward a few weeks ago . I'd only recommend Kim at 9/2 and maybe a small bet on Bianca because of all the weirdness... ... ...

But I actually both hope AND think that the boys will pull it off, and betting odds on isn't worth it (at the moment you don't even double your money on them). The only odds-on BB bet I've ever placed was Gary Busey and I was *****ing my pants watching that finale (I put on £110 at 8/11, really stupid bet). Not worth it.

[Time]

seems like a kim win is looking less likely

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's why I *only* gamble on reality events, if you follow twitter / FB "buzz" you can get some great odds. Helen Wood is still my best coup . 33/1. Bear was also an easy win with good odds, as was (sadly!) Trump . I haven't bet this year, there's not a huge amount of value left on the board, I wish I had bet on Jedward a few weeks ago . I'd only recommend Kim at 9/2 and maybe a small bet on Bianca because of all the weirdness... ... ...

But I actually both hope AND think that the boys will pull it off, and betting odds on isn't worth it (at the moment you don't even double your money on them). The only odds-on BB bet I've ever placed was Gary Busey and I was *****ing my pants watching that finale (I put on £110 at 8/11, really stupid bet). Not worth it.

I suppose betting on Helen atleast mad you happy in some way anyhow

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Time

seems like a kim win is looking less likely

Dont panic, the odds have hardly moved all week

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I suppose betting on Helen atleast mad you happy in some way anyhow

I made a right killing on Helen and Bear winning !!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I suppose betting on Helen atleast mad you happy in some way anyhow

Best £10 I ever spent.

...said Wayne Rooney.

[Vanessa]

Might put a bet on Jedward winning

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Best £10 I ever spent.

...said Wayne Rooney.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Jedward are NOT shortening they have been this price all week ,the betting odds have been very stable for days now,this is why I started a thread about it yesterday ,Jedward are not firm enough favs to say no one can catch them

I don't bet or gamble on BB but I popped into.a local betting shop on Tuesday to see the CBB odds, Jedward had gone to 10/11 from evens.
If they are now 5/6 that means they are now 10/12 so have shortened slightly again.

Not that betting odds mean much as to BB really.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Might put a bet on Jedward winning

Unless you're betting £50-£100+ it's honestly barely worth it...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Unless you're betting £50-£100+ it's honestly barely worth it...

But if they lose

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I made a right killing on Helen and Bear winning !!

I didn't watch Bears series but I could imagine if you'd put some money on helen in that first or second week you would have cleaned up

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Best £10 I ever spent.

...said Wayne Rooney.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But if they lose

Exactly . You need to be really confident for a bet like that. I'm about 70% sure they'll win but I wouldn't risk money on it, BB can be so unpredictable at the end. Like I said I did it with Busey and he seemed unbeatable, I was 99% sure he was going to win but it was STILL a scary bet for me! It worked out fine obviously but risking £110 to get £190 back... ... ... the £80 wasn't worth the stress of watching the final

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I didn't watch Bears series but I could imagine if you'd put some money on helen in that first or second week you would have cleaned up

I got 33/1, £340 for £10. I didn't expect her to win at all and was barely watching the finale, didn't register at all when they announced her as the winner, until my wife (not a BB fan ) was like "isn't that the one you were wanting to win?" .

Helen bought me my original PS4 and Trump bought me my PS4 Pro. I'm dreading the PS5 release and the horrible things that will have to happen for me to buy it .

[user104658]

Helen btw was actually 7/1 on the DAY of the finale, and Ashleigh was 8/15 (almost a dead cert to win). A prime example really of how wrong the odds can be for BB.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Exactly . You need to be really confident for a bet like that. I'm about 70% sure they'll win but I wouldn't risk money on it, BB can be so unpredictable at the end. Like I said I did it with Busey and he seemed unbeatable, I was 99% sure he was going to win but it was STILL a scary bet for me! It worked out fine obviously but risking £110 to get £190 back... ... ... the £80 wasn't worth the stress of watching the final

Might bet 50 £, a bit less stressful?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I got 33/1, £340 for £10. I didn't expect her to win at all and was barely watching the finale, didn't register at all when they announced her as the winner, until my wife (not a BB fan ) was like "isn't that the one you were wanting to win?" .

Helen bought me my original PS4 and Trump bought me my PS4 Pro. I'm dreading the PS5 release and the horrible things that will have to happen for me to buy it .

omg TS are you actually causing all this horrible stuff?

I have visions of you being visited by some evil witch tempting you with the Play stations but telling you It comes with a price