[arista]

Leader Putin warns All Gays




http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...mpics-children

Russian president vows no discrimination
but says gay people must
observe law banning 'homosexual propaganda'

[Vladimir Putin has said that gay people
will be not be subjected to harassment
at the Winter Olympics in Sochi,
as long as they stay away from children.
Putin is currently in Sochi reviewing
preparations for the Games, which begin
in three weeks. During a meeting with
some of the thousands of volunteers
who will work during the Olympics,
he was asked why their uniform
were rainbow coloured, given the recent
Kremlin anti-gay initiatives.
"We do not have a ban on non-traditional
sexual relationships," said Putin in comments
reported by Russian agencies.
"We have a ban on the propaganda
of homosexuality and paedophilia.
I want to underline this.
Propaganda among children.
These are absolutely different
things – a ban on something
or a ban on the propaganda of that thing."
Putin also added that Russia
was more liberal than some
other countries, claiming that
in certain US states homosexuality
was still punishable by law.]



if you are Gay in Russia - hide

[Munchkins]

What the actual **** is all i can say

[arista]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

What the actual **** is all i can say

Russia hates all gays

They are into children - Putin claims

[Livia]

I can't understand how the Winter Olympics hasn't been withdrawn from Russia. Once again they show themselves as an uneducated backwater. How embarrassing for them.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

I can't understand how the Winter Olympics hasn't been withdrawn from Russia. Once again they show themselves as an uneducated backwater. How embarrassing for them.

Also, the world cup is gonna be in Russia in 2018 and the 2022 world cup was given to Qatar... Both have appalling human rights records.

The Olympics and the World Cup are businesses, they only care about money.

The truth is if you really tried to find a country to host these that doesn't have some kind of human rights issues, you'd have a pretty difficult task.

Britain itself was attacked for being chosen for 2012 because of the war in Iraq. Sydney 2000 was attacked for Aboriginal treatment, etc... every country has it's skeletons.

As abhorrent as Russia's anti-gay laws are, if we only gave sporting events to perfect countries, we'd have no sporting events.

[MTVN]

"Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law"

Which ones

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

"Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law"

Which ones

yes a few South States in America
are like Putin over gays

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

yes a few South States in America
are like Putin over gays

Not since 2003. Which is actually shockingly recent.

Originally Posted by MTVN

"Putin also added that Russia was more liberal than some other countries, claiming that in certain US states homosexuality was still punishable by law"

Which ones

I know there are 29 states in which you can still be fired from your job for being gay. The republicans refuse to allow a federal vote outlawing this practice on the state level.

[Tom4784]

Putin is a ****ing moron and any international event that takes place in Russia should be widely boycotted.

Putin doesn't know his elbow from his arse, homosexuality isn't banned in ANY American state and the thing about European countries considering making Paedophilia legal is so stupid that I can't actually believe he has the gall to say it. It makes me wonder how such a moron could actually worm his way into power.

[Munchkins]

And to think there were members on here praising Putin as some legend, even if it was a joke -.-

[MeMyselfAndI]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

And to think there were members on here praising Putin as some legend, even if it was a joke -.-

Name & shame them

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

And to think there were members on here praising Putin as some legend, even if it was a joke -.-

I'm sorry , but this particular situation I agree is very distasteful and probably politically motivated. But don't be fooled Vladimir Putin is an exceptional leader and strategist he has galvanised Russia and put them back on the world map. He is an inspirational President as has been seen over the last decade or so.

Anybody who thinks the man is stupid or weak or a fool clearly has not any grasp on reality and probably gets their news from the Sun or Daily Mail.

[Z]

The thing is, he's not a stupid man. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's uniting his people by encouraging them to hate something in common. Nothing unites people more than hating something in common; homosexuality is being portrayed as a hedonistic Western concept and any Russian discovered to be homosexual is therefore a traitor to religious and social values in Russia... he's a very smart man, Putin, which is much scarier than him just being stupid and uneducated. It's the opposite.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Zee

The thing is, he's not a stupid man. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's uniting his people by encouraging them to hate something in common. Nothing unites people more than hating something in common; homosexuality is being portrayed as a hedonistic Western concept and any Russian discovered to be homosexual is therefore a traitor to religious and social values in Russia... he's a very smart man, Putin, which is much scarier than him just being stupid and uneducated. It's the opposite.

That's true, it kind of fits into a long history of countries opposed to the west portraying homosexuality in that way

[Z]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That's true, it kind of fits into a long history of countries opposed to the west portraying homosexuality in that way

Russia tried to integrate itself into the West and got knocked back; and then institutions like NATO, the EU etc started to encroach upon former Soviet territory... installing defense systems in Romania, EU accessions etc... the recent troubles in the Ukraine were a turning point for Russia. The Ukraine was about to commit to EU partnership and then Russia put all its political pressure on the Ukraine through oil and gas to keep it in Russia's sphere of influence; the West has never really tried to put an end to the tensions created by the Cold War and now it just sort of exists as an energy war instead; all these proxy problems in other countries are based solely on oil and gas and I think Putin's trying to promote Russian values everywhere and hating on the gays is just a small part of that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

The thing is, he's not a stupid man. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's uniting his people by encouraging them to hate something in common. Nothing unites people more than hating something in common; homosexuality is being portrayed as a hedonistic Western concept and any Russian discovered to be homosexual is therefore a traitor to religious and social values in Russia... he's a very smart man, Putin, which is much scarier than him just being stupid and uneducated. It's the opposite.

yes Novo
Loves him

[Shaun]

that's a pretty rainbow-coloured looking olympic kit to me, Putin, what kind of propaganda is this

[Z]

I was about to suggest maybe he's secretly gay so I went and looked at his Wikipedia entry because I'd never heard any mention of him having a wife or family but then discovered he is married (though due to divorce his wife) and he has two daughters but no pictures of them have ever been published in Russian media. He doesn't seem to be a family man.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

I was about to suggest maybe he's secretly gay so I went and looked at his Wikipedia entry because I'd never heard any mention of him having a wife or family but then discovered he is married (though due to divorce his wife) and he has two daughters but no pictures of them have ever been published in Russian media. He doesn't seem to be a family man.

You would upset Novo

[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

You would upset Novo

But he needs to know the truth

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

But he needs to know the truth

Maybe Novo will ignore this thread

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by arista

Maybe Novo will ignore this thread

Yeah probably

[Tom4784]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he turned out to be gay, it would make a lot of sense.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Not every country can be on the same page as we are.

The Winter Olympics are helping to highlight this issue in Russia re homosexuality. I think it will help push this agenda in a positive way overall.