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29-07-2015, 08:56 AM | #1 | |||
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Do you feel more remorse for the elongated death of Cecil the Lion than you do for the dead migrant in Calais?
if so why and so you feel any guilt about this? |
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29-07-2015, 09:01 AM | #2 | |||
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I don't feel remorse for any of it as I had nothing to do with it.
Both situations are sad, however, Cecil had no choice in the situation, the migrant did. |
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29-07-2015, 09:01 AM | #3 | |||
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Cecil in a heartbeat as he was not aware of the cruelty of man,the migrant took his chances and lost but was fully aware of what could happen.
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29-07-2015, 09:08 AM | #4 | ||
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I personally am not going to lose any sleep over either of them, but I expect most people will feel worse for Mr Lion, because we live in a society that personifies animals and dehumanises foreigners. Especially poor ones.
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29-07-2015, 09:10 AM | #5 | |||
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Do you think a human life is more important than an animal one?
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29-07-2015, 09:13 AM | #6 | |||
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Depends what human,some yes definitely animals are more important.
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29-07-2015, 09:17 AM | #7 | ||
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29-07-2015, 09:24 AM | #8 | |||
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I don't have sympathy for the migrants in Calais because, as I've said, like, a squillion times, they crossed so many safe countries to get to Calais because they've heard about our benefits free-for-all. If you think they crossed those safe countries to try to come here for any other reason, you're dreaming. Some of the wildlife in Africa has been almost wiped out by people who regard themselves as human - the dickless moron who shot the lion, for instance. I wouldn't want to anthropomorphise animals because humans generally, while being higher up the evolutionary chain, scrape the bottom when it comes to evil. |
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29-07-2015, 09:31 AM | #9 | ||
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And you're right, clearly Cecil hasn't been anthropomorphed. Cecil. Cecil, Livia. Cecil the Lion has not been given any human qualities for the sake of endearment at all. Cecil. ... Anyway, Lions (and all cats) actually have a quite strong tendency to "play with" and torture their kills until they get bored and eat it. They specifically keep it alive, for fun. Most creatures are pretty evil . Last edited by Toy Soldier; 29-07-2015 at 09:33 AM. |
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29-07-2015, 09:40 AM | #10 | |||
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Calling something by a name does not equate to anthropomorphisation. My car had a name. Do I think I saw any human qualities in it? No I did not. Mountains have names. Lakes have names. Oceans have names. Countries have names... There aren't that many animals in the world that kill for fun with no intention of eating their prey and by far the sickest of them all is the human race. |
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29-07-2015, 09:59 AM | #11 | |||
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I'm not going to disagree that humans can be the most capable of cruelty and depravity of any animal. Like I also said, "it depends on the human", there are plenty of human lives I'd gladly see traded for poor noble Cecil's. Serial killers, Child abusers, Iain Duncan Smith, etc... However, there is absolutely no evidence at all that this unfortunate, faceless, NAMELESS immigrant at Calais was any of those things, or anything more than a desperate person hopelessly seeking a better life. So yeah. It's worse than a lion. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 29-07-2015 at 10:01 AM. |
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29-07-2015, 12:31 PM | #12 | |||
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29-07-2015, 10:12 AM | #13 | |||
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29-07-2015, 09:21 AM | #14 | ||
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cecil was hunted - the immigrants are desperate and so unhappy with there lifes they risk losing there life to try and create a better one.
as you see 2 different arguments. |
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29-07-2015, 09:52 AM | #15 | |||
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I don't mean any offence but I don't feel any remorse for either, I didn't know the lion up until the news broke and and loads of migrants die? I don't know either personally, I try not to get too attached to the news. I know people will have altering opinions, but this is just my view.
Yeah, sad things happen, but I don't know the people/animals personally, I feel sad for a second but move on with my day... I may sound stupid saying that, but honestly, people die everyday. Bad things happen in the news everyday, it's just life surely? idk.
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29-07-2015, 10:40 AM | #16 | |||
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How did you feel when 7/7 happened? |
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29-07-2015, 11:00 AM | #17 | |||
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Idk how this is coming across but I'm not heartless or s/t, I'm just used to it now? idk.
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29-07-2015, 11:08 AM | #18 | |||
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30-07-2015, 07:29 AM | #19 | |||
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..I would feel sadness for both, for different reasons...
..I think that a basic human ability is to feel compassion/empathy in something that is relatable within themselves...if a human or an animal is dead, then they are dead and they feel nothingness so the empathy largely comes from relating to emotions that will be with family/friends etc and relating to that and how we personally think we would feel/the devastation etc...so even if it was a 'bad' person like a serial killer etc, I may not feel any sense of loss as such for them but I still would feel empathy for their families who saw the best in them, whose worlds were shattered not only by their loved ones death but by the things they did in life as well ... ..with the lion, obviously it's a feeling of sadness that there are people who would strive (for pleasure/self gratification..)...to assist the reduction in species that should be protected/he was being protected but that didn't make a difference alas...but as 'bad' as humans can be, it's also humans who are good and trying to protect against these thing happening as much as they can.... |
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29-07-2015, 09:54 AM | #20 | ||
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its nice to have compassion for others.
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29-07-2015, 10:13 AM | #21 | |||
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I can see some similarities in hunted animals and refugees, both are killed as trophies for some, as beasts to be controlled or eradicated by others.
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29-07-2015, 10:14 AM | #22 | |||
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The migrant is Illegal
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29-07-2015, 10:21 AM | #23 | ||
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29-07-2015, 10:48 AM | #24 | |||
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Is 7/7 highlighted because it happened in Britain? When refugees are regarded as cockroaches I think it's safe to say that many can easily distance themselves emotionally from issues facing those overseas.
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29-07-2015, 10:54 AM | #25 | |||
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Perhaps you would care to elaborate here and say who regards them as such? |
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