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BB17 Discuss the series (won by Jason Burrill, runner-up Hughie) and all the housemates in this forum.
Housemates (tags):
Alex,
Andrew,
Andy,
Charlie,
Chelsea,
Emma,
Emma & Victoria,
Evelyn,
Georgina,
Hughie,
Jackson,
Jason,
Jayne,
Lateysha,
Laura,
Marco,
Natalie,
Ryan,
Sam,
Victoria,
HM Fan clubs (appreciation)
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27-07-2016, 11:48 AM | #1 | |||
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Before I start this, I want people to know that I am NOT bitter about Hughie not winning. That's not my issue at all. I also have no issue if any of you thought Jason deserved that win. With that said I want to freely give my say on this.
Jason for me, is one of the worst winners ever, and taints what would've been an amazing season. The main reason I think this is because he basically didn't do much and then did sudden randomly really important things every now and again. His personality itself was very uninteresting due to his lack of emotions and he was usually found to be interesting when he relied on interactions with others, such as Lateysha or Charlie or even Andy. He was never interesting on his own. He got all this sympathy for BB "provoking" him but I was not even feeling bad. If he really wanted to leave then he should've just went out the fire exit. I don't mind game players (see Nasty Nick and Dexter), but Jason was not only an unlikable one, but an uninteresting one. He was unlikable because he repeatedly kept painting himself as this really nice guy when in actuality he was a game player. This technically isn't a bad thing on paper, but when you take Charlie into account, it really makes him hateable for me. If he was really a game player this whole time, then he used a vulnerable woman's emotions to make himself look better. So it's more of a slimy gameplayer rather than a likable one. Then he was uninteresting because his personality just does not fit the "game player" stigma. He's too reserved, he's too emotionless, and he didn't do anything besides random game changing moves, like nominating Charlie (she wouldn't have been up for eviction if he hadn't nominated her), evicting Lateysha, and then breaking down equipment to get sympathy, intentionally or not. He's just not a nice guy like he keeps saying. He may have deserved to rank high, but I really don't think unlikeable behaviour should be rewarded. He did not even get a warning for his damaging of equipment. Even if Hughie had lost against, say, Jackson for example, I wouldn't mind. As much as I dislike Jackson he stood out much more than Jason so if he won over Hughie, I'd be much less mad. I could even say the same on Jayne, Evelyn, and Andy, regardless of my opinions on any of them. It's perfectly fine if any of you thought he was a good winner. But I thought he was just a terrible one, plain and simple. Last edited by Epic.; 27-07-2016 at 11:52 AM. |
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27-07-2016, 11:58 AM | #2 | |||
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My only issue with Jason as a winner is that I don't really feel like I know him. Like you said, he was reserved, and he held back a lot of his true self. So even if people like the Jason that they saw and voted for him based on that, I can't help but feel that his wariness of showing his true self kind of goes against what BB is about. And would he have won if he'd showed it?
Any of the housemates who were evicted because people didn't like 'x' about them, could have just hidden that particular flaw and possibly gone on to win. And surely voting a winner who has openly stated he's hiding certain aspects of his personality, is possibly going to effect how future contestants might behave/how much of themselves they show. I liked Jason, but I wouldn't have voted for him to win based on all of that.
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27-07-2016, 12:06 PM | #3 | ||
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They all cant be like Ryan, Hughie etc etc and i quite like the fact that there is a big mix of personalities.
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27-07-2016, 12:17 PM | #4 | |||
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27-07-2016, 12:41 PM | #5 | ||
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27-07-2016, 07:11 PM | #6 | |||
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All that said... Jason's winning is symbolic in this case because contrary to voting for a player based on a "winning personality", people voted for him based on a "winning strategy" (which his fans argue have a lot to do with he actually thinks and does as a person). His win almost certainly stands out in an era of untimely accidents (such as Donald Trump's popularity) and referendums such as Brexit where people dare to buck the trend, maybe even dream and not just default to the most socially acceptable answer(s). However I may feel personally about such developments, I'm actually thrilled, because it give us all hope that when the next BB rolls around, our "unlikely" favorites who we usually feel can't win against certain crowds could possibly rise up and come out over the top and even possibly win. In addition to this, we had our first boot being a male for the very first time. If you ask me, these are all signs that BB is moving in a direction for the better, not for worse. My two cents. Last edited by Maru; 27-07-2016 at 07:11 PM. |
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27-07-2016, 07:22 PM | #7 | |||
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27-07-2016, 11:59 AM | #8 | |||
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Jason is not a bad winner ,he is only a bad winner to those who lost their faves or won over their faves,simple as that,imo he was a worthy winner
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27-07-2016, 12:01 PM | #9 | |||
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Think that's a matter of opinion lol.
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27-07-2016, 12:01 PM | #10 | |||
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Well if you read it, it does say IMO.LOL
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27-07-2016, 01:38 PM | #11 | |||
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27-07-2016, 01:40 PM | #12 | |||
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True,the victory is sweet
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27-07-2016, 01:43 PM | #13 | |||
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27-07-2016, 02:58 PM | #14 | ||
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27-07-2016, 06:22 PM | #15 | |||
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Ok still an opinion mans I doubt every single person who voted for Jason to win think the same...
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28-07-2016, 08:10 AM | #16 | ||
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27-07-2016, 12:05 PM | #17 | ||
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He evicted Lateysha which would have signed his eviction notice if it hadn't been for Andy and Charlie boosting his chances. It's not bitter to dislike the fact that Jason won, it's a valid opinion because he won when his victory was a result of better HMs carrying him. |
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27-07-2016, 12:25 PM | #18 | |||
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27-07-2016, 12:26 PM | #19 | |||
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Jason won and no one can take it away from him.
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27-07-2016, 02:44 PM | #20 | ||
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27-07-2016, 12:48 PM | #21 | |||
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At the end of the day, it was at least a close result between 1st and second, so opinion is going to be split in nearly equal numbers, but for me it reflects the 2 camps that watch BB and what they see as entertainment |
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27-07-2016, 12:56 PM | #22 | |||
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Well said... |
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27-07-2016, 12:02 PM | #23 | |||
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He was also aggressive, grumpy and two-faced.
He should have been removed from the house for damaging cameras and fittings, no question. He received a favourable edit for the last couple of weeks of the show, which was awful to see.
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27-07-2016, 10:46 PM | #24 | |||
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How many of them damaged the fire escape doors without any sign of a fire?...nobody called them aggressive thugs and asked for their removal.. |
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27-07-2016, 12:05 PM | #25 | |||
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I haven't watched the final but I'm actually shocked Jason won! I really disliked him when he evicted Lateysha, but I was fully on his side with the whole Charlie thing despite her being one of my favourites very early on, but I genuinely don't remember him doing all that much, mainly sitting in the smoking area having shifty eyes and looking miserable so I'm not happy about him winning, not because I didn't like him because he came across as quite nice this past few days, but because I don't think he was the most entertaining, and I don't remember that much that he did, I wanted Jayne or Andy to win, Jayne was unrealistic I was hoping for her to be a third place queen, but Andy really deserved it in my opinion and I think he needed it on behalf of his career, I do think Jason played a bit of a game, but anyway it's over and done with and well done to him
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