[Brillopad]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-madness.html

Found this interesting. Wasn’t even aware of most of them and I already thought PC was out of control!

[Cherie]

for ‘girls’
A sexist word according to Cardiff Metropolitan University, which said that it should never be used about adults as it is a way of belittling them.


TiBB

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

for ‘girls’
A sexist word according to Cardiff Metropolitan University, which said that it should never be used about adults as it is a way of belittling them.


TiBB

It certainly can be sexist when men refer to grown women as girls, which is pretty common and no doubt those same men would object to being called boys - but like most things it’s about context.

[bitontheslide]

Something that the girls on TiBB will be interested in i'm sure

[Cal.]

Will you BLOODY shut your gob about this?!?!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Will you BLOODY shut your gob about this?!?!

Are you talking to me? If so, no I BLOODY won’t!

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Will you BLOODY shut your gob about this?!?!

ffs

[Brillopad]

Apparently we can’t clap for fear of offending some very unstable people or use the word illegal as it has ‘racist’ undertones.

How anyone in their right mind and without an agenda can defend such nonsence is beyond comprehension.

[smudgie]

Poor Percy.
To think anybody would even think anybody could ever think cats have been butchered to put the cats eyes on the road.

Imbeciles.

[Vicky.]

I didn't even know 'manfully' was a word

[Vicky.]

In January, the British Medical Association advised members that mothers-to-be should be referred to as ‘pregnant people’ to avoid offence and ‘celebrate diversity’.

Also, breastfeeding should be called chestfeeding. This really is ridiculous and pathetic and the people demanding it are entitled narcissists.

Sussex University Students’ Union warned members against using the pronouns ‘he’ and ‘she’ to avoid assumptions about identity. ‘They’ and ‘Them’ are said to be the correct, gender-neutral terms.

Pronoun **** is stupid. You are a she if you are female, and a he is you are male. Zir Ze and such aren't even ****ing words so **** off with that too

I use peoples preferred pronouns if they are actually transsexual. I will not call an obvious man she no matter how much he cries and shrieks about it. Nor will I ever refer to another human as 'it' which is demanded by a few of them

Jenni Murray, presenter of Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour, upset transgender lobbyists when she said men who had undergone sex-change operations could not claim to be ‘real women’ since they did not have ‘the experience of growing up female’.

Yet another stupid one, especially when coupled with

Transgender campaigners condemn such phrases as inaccurate and offensive. Even ‘biologically male’ and ‘biologically female’ are deemed ‘problematic’ by the influential U.S. gay rights ‘media monitoring’ group GLAAD (which used to be called the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, because they ‘oversimplify’ the ‘complex subject’ of gender. We’re told the correct usage is to say an individual is ‘assigned’ or ‘designated’ male or female at birth.

I always ask when people start with this rubbish, if a transwoman is a woman, how do you describe the class of women, without referring to stereotypes as stereotypes are bollocks and not everyone follows them anyway. Its impossible to do. 'Anyone who identifies as a woman' does not work...because...what are they identifying with? The description becomes 'anyone who identifies as anyone who identifies as anyone who identifies' and so on. With no end. So no, transwomen are not women, they are transwomen. To say they are women is both false and erasing who they actually are. Its actually transphobic to say they are women, as thats erasing the fact that they are trans as if trans is something to be ashamed about.

The whole trans debate has got ****ing ridiculous. As female penises and such are mainstream thinking now. 'Self-identification' with no diagnoses of 'sex dysphoria' is being pushed for. How is one trans without sex dysphoria exactly? Something people said would never happen and its 'just a fringe' and so on. Well its not. And they are pushing for changes to the law to protect 'gender identity' rather than 'gender reassignment'. And given 'gender identity' is all in ones head (I dont even have a gender identity, I just am a female) how on earth can laws be made based on a feeling? Its just stupid.

Rant over. That article annoyed me a lot as I thought it would be bollocks made up by the mail yet a lot of it is actually true, though many will think it isn't as it sounds so bizarre.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also, breastfeeding should be called chestfeeding. This really is ridiculous and pathetic and the people demanding it are entitled narcissists.



Pronoun **** is stupid. You are a she if you are female, and a he is you are male. Zir Ze and such aren't even ****ing words so **** off with that too

I use peoples preferred pronouns if they are actually transsexual. I will not call an obvious man she no matter how much he cries and shrieks about it. Nor will I ever refer to another human as 'it' which is demanded by a few of them

Yet another stupid one, especially when coupled with



I always ask when people start with this rubbish, if a transwoman is a woman, how do you describe the class of women, without referring to stereotypes as stereotypes are bollocks and not everyone follows them anyway. Its impossible to do. 'Anyone who identifies as a woman' does not work...because...what are they identifying with? The description becomes 'anyone who identifies as anyone who identifies as anyone who identifies' and so on. With no end. So no, transwomen are not women, they are transwomen. To say they are women is both false and erasing who they actually are. Its actually transphobic to say they are women, as thats erasing the fact that they are trans as if trans is something to be ashamed about.

The whole trans debate has got ****ing ridiculous. As female penises and such are mainstream thinking now. 'Self-identification' with no diagnoses of 'sex dysphoria' is being pushed for. How is one trans without sex dysphoria exactly? Something people said would never happen and its 'just a fringe' and so on. Well its not. And they are pushing for changes to the law to protect 'gender identity' rather than 'gender reassignment'. And given 'gender identity' is all in ones head (I dont even have a gender identity, I just am a female) how on earth can laws be made based on a feeling? Its just stupid.

Rant over. That article annoyed me a lot as I thought it would be bollocks made up by the mail yet a lot of it is actually true, though many will think it isn't as it sounds so bizarre.

I think it’s a case of giving them enough rope to hang themselves with as it has got so ridiculous. People will fight back at such Nonsence - it’s inevitable.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I think it’s a case of giving them enough rope to hang themselves with as it has got so ridiculous. People will fight back at such Nonsence - it’s inevitable.

Hopefully before the law gets passed, as it will be hard to take back once its there :/

Though more people do seem to be waking up recently. My lesbian friends have been awake for some time now as they have been called transphobic on a few occasion for rejecting people with penises who say they are women.

Its all been so under the radar, but it seems to be reaching more people now and most will disagree with it all. Because its mental. There is a journalist called Janice Turner who writes for the Tim es, and she has been doing a lot of articles on this recently and has been attacked left right and centre for being 'transphobic' when the articles are anything but tbh. I would link them, but they are behind a paywall so most won't be able to read them anyway The jist of it though is she is worried about the amount of kids being put on 'harmless' puberty blockers just because they like to 'dress as a female' and such. These 'harmless' blockers are actually powerfeul chemotherapy drugs which cause lifelong problems. But the parents are being told they are safe, and fully reversible (which they aren't reversible in practice at all). NHS directing parents of gender questioning kids to the pressure group 'Mermaids' who draw in kids at pride events with puppies and sweets and try to convince them they are trans and tell them 'puberty is optional'. FFS. Which kid wants to go through puberty. I know I didn't

So many kids sacrificed and medicalized for life. Its sad, and ****ing scary

Edit. Heres one of the 'transphobic' articles https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...obby-bq0m2mm95 I think you can read 2 per week without a subscription.

Her twitter talks about it and her articles too. https://twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/...20070695804929 The replies she gets are very eye opening. The abuse comes mainly from male people (usually) with anime avatars. There is a reason the tagline to all of this is 'no debate' and thats as people actually talk about it, it all falls apart and most can see it for the misogynistic homophobic nonsense that it is.

*I am not saying transsexual people are homophobic and that. Those with sex dysphoria obviously need support and such. Its these new 'transgender' people who are the problem. And 'trans'ing children is deeply homophobic and is actually gay eugenics, as if these kids are left alone 80-95% of them grow out of the confusion and most that grow out of it are simply gay adults. When if they are shoved onto 'harmless' puberty blockers, 97% go onto cross sex hormones.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Hopefully before the law gets passed, as it will be hard to take back once its there :/

Though more people do seem to be waking up recently. My lesbian friends have been awake for some time now as they have been called transphobic on a few occasion for rejecting people with penises who say they are women.

Its all been so under the radar, but it seems to be reaching more people now and most will disagree with it all. Because its mental. There is a journalist called Janice Turner who writes for the Tim es, and she has been doing a lot of articles on this recently and has been attacked left right and centre for being 'transphobic' when the articles are anything but tbh. I would link them, but they are behind a paywall so most won't be able to read them anyway The jist of it though is she is worried about the amount of kids being put on 'harmless' puberty blockers just because they like to 'dress as a female' and such. These 'harmless' blockers are actually powerfeul chemotherapy drugs which cause lifelong problems. But the parents are being told they are safe, and fully reversible (which they aren't reversible in practice at all). NHS directing parents of gender questioning kids to the pressure group 'Mermaids' who draw in kids at pride events with puppies and sweets and try to convince them they are trans and tell them 'puberty is optional'. FFS. Which kid wants to go through puberty. I know I didn't

So many kids sacrificed and medicalized for life. Its sad, and ****ing scary

Sacrificed for an ‘ideal’ by some. It’s a political agenda in my opinion and a very harmful one clearly.

What adults decide for themselves is one thing but to try to influence vulnerable minds is morally criminal. We must have laws to protect children from this manipulative obsession.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Sacrificed for an ‘ideal’ by some. It’s a political agenda in my opinion and a very harmful one clearly.

What adults decide for themselves is one thing but to try to influence vulnerable minds is morally criminal. We must have laws to protect children from this manipulative obsession.

Indeed. I don't care one bit if some dude wants to go and have surgeries to resemble a woman. Live and let live tbh. But when kids are dragged into it, and we are expected to believe that people with penises are women and should be granted access to female changing rooms and such, and even put in female prisons (even people in prison for rape, get granted access to the females in jail...ridiculous) it becomes a huge problem.

And gender fluid can **** right off tbh. Makes no sense at all. Dress how you like, but putting on a dress one day does not make you a woman anymore than me wearing trousers today makes me a man

And everyone is 'non-binary' also, so no thats not special either.

[Vicky.]

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf

This is amazing too.

As it this, about the ridiculous topshop 'gender fluid' narcissist issue (many may not know about that, its fairly recent and hasn't been publicized much)

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/an-op...p-d7351ef932ab


Its so odd. I am a lefty in most ways, but I am totally against the left on this issue. But I am not aligned with the right either, as the right seem to accept it all too. Its Maria Miller trying to push the 'gender identity' rubbish, and May agrees with it all too.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/dear-...t-f20fbf6272cf

This is amazing too.

As it this, about the ridiculous topshop 'gender fluid' narcissist issue (many may not know about that, its fairly recent and hasn't been publicized much)

https://medium.com/@GappyTales/an-op...p-d7351ef932ab


Its so odd. I am a lefty in most ways, but I am totally against the left on this issue. But I am not aligned with the right either, as the right seem to accept it all too. Its Maria Miller trying to push the 'gender identity' rubbish, and May agrees with it all too.

Haven’t looked at those yet, but will. Just wanted to say I don’t believe May believes that for a minute - I think she is just trying to get the young on board and say what she thinks they want th hear. Not the way to go in my opinion.

Basically I just think we should all leave the kids alone on these issues, let them be kids, and decide on these things when they are older and have a better understanding, of it all.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Haven’t looked at those yet, but will. Just wanted to say I don’t believe May believes that for a minute - I think she is just trying to get the young on board and say what she thinks they want th hear. Not the way to go in my opinion.

Basically I just think we should all leave the kids alone on these issues, let them be kids, and decide on these things when they are older and have a better understanding, of it all.

I think (like many) May has not thought very deeply into the implications of this law that Miller is trying to pass through and still sees this as a kind of...extension of gay rights thing. And who would argue against gay rights? Except its nothing to do with gay rights at all, and infact the ideology in itself is deeply homophobic and dragging gender questioning kids into it...is homophobic also as most of these gender questioning kids are simply gay but either do not understand this yet, or have internalized homophobia. And reconcile with themselves once through puberty once their brains have developed properly. IF they are left alone instead of put on chemo drugs. When puberty is blocked, essential brain development does not happen and as such, these kids jeep thinking they are trans rather than just accepting they are gay.

Its a sorry state of affairs really when no questions are allowed to be asked, especially when discussing the welfare of kids.

A Tory MP recently managed to get a talk in parliament where people were allowed to give the opposite view to the 'accepted' one. Its quite long, but if you are bored at some stage, its well worth a read.

https://www.david-davies.org.uk/site...20Concerns.pdf

Gives opinions from a variety of people, including a transsexual woman with concerns about 'self identification'

[jet]

I know very little about the subject you have talked at some length about here Vicky, and I have found your input very informative and interesting.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jet

I know very little about the subject you have talked at some length about here Vicky, and I have found your input very informative and interesting.

Most people know very little of it as its all been kept fairly hushed until recently. And even now its not being publicized well at all. just the odd report of transacticists physically attacking people who oppose parts of the ideology, and narcissistic arseholes like Travis who feel 'neither male nor female' and expect to change with teen girls because of this :S

This is no longer about 'born in the wrong body'. To even say the phrase 'born in the wrong body' is hugely transphobic apparently.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-madness.html

Found this interesting. Wasn’t even aware of most of them and I already thought PC was out of control!

They are ridiculous.I think this stuff is mostly an online phenomena though.I don’t encounter this stuff in my everyday real life.Most people are sensible thank god.What i do with political correctness in day to day life if I should ever encounter it is....Ignore it and carry on.If people are going to get offended by stuff like this then it’s themselves they need to look at while they’re cowering at ‘micro aggressions’ and cats eyes

[arista]

Yes Manfully
is a take over of a Ladys bits ,...................


In a Corner etc.

[Northern Monkey]

A transexual once tried getting in my face at a music festival and was being deliberately.....flirtatious for want of a better word.More harrasing tbh.Anyway i warned him once and he didn’t listen so i threw him down a hill.

[Vicky.]

Another times article about this

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...ca4696b07cfc49

“There is a conflict here between transgender rights and the rights of other people such as women. What is shocking is that we are rushing into this [self-declaration] without evidence of its impacts.”

The effect can already be seen in Scotland, where this policy is broadly in place and most trans prisoners are allowed to transfer to women’s units without a gender recognition certificate. Scotland has 18 transgender prisoners, including 13 male-to-female, far more than England and Wales for its prison population size. Most are in female accommodation.

One of the 13, Paris Green, was convicted of murder as a man and has twice been allowed to transfer to women’s units before being moved out again after having sex with female inmates.

Another trans inmate, Tiffany Scott, convicted as Andrew Burns for stalking a 13-year-old girl, assault and other offences, punched a prison officer and threw a chair at the prison nurse. The offences, which took place when Scott was asking to be known as Mighty Almighty, led to a court hearing at which Scott screamed that the presiding sheriff was a “********** transphobe bastard” for referring to her by the wrong pronoun.

Self identification is a huge huge problem. Post-op transsexual people, fair enough (hell, the operations aren't even needed to gain a gender recognition certificate at the moment anyway, only a diagnosis of sex dyshoria and 'living as' the opposite sex for 2 yearts, hardly a big ask for those who apparently want to make a lifetime decision? But apparently even this is 'gatekeeping' and 'transphobic' and no requirements should be necessary, just a online form to 'change sex'). But males with intact penises, and especially those convicted of raping women, should be nowhere near female prisons. Funnily enough, there have been no transmen (females) requiring to be moved to the male prison to be their true selves. I wonder why that is eh?

I remember signing the petition to move that Tara Hudson to a female prison. It made out that they were post op in the news and I think the actual petition wording too. I specifically remember seeing that they had had the operations, and the reason I signed was as I could see that it would be detrimental definitely to be in a male prison post-op. Turns out 'operation' means, they had had a boob job. Great. A male with a boob job does not a female make ffs.

Even though Tara did look quite feminine, the solution would have been putting them away from males, but not in with females either.

This article is being screamed about on twitter too. Transphobic too apparently. Anything thats getting the truth of whats happening out there is 'transphobic'. The word means nothing anymore :S


Edit. Sorry for hijacking the thread. This really set me off a bit and I really do feel the general public should be informed rather than this rubbish being passed without question all because a few entitled men want it to be and screech 'terf' or 'bigot' at anyone who dares question it

[Vicky.]

I have no time for Riley and his advocating of basically raping lesbians. He gives a 'pass' to females who have been sexually assaulted to refuse bepenised individuals but advises they 'get over it' else become bigotted like the rest of the lesbians who are same SEX attracted.

Sadly, Riley is not one of a kind and there are more and more of him, growing in numbers daily.

Where actual transsexuals would not dream of forcing themselves onto people or basically shaming lesbians into ****ing them.

The amount of 'transwomen' who are attracted to women (and will only accept 'cis' women, whilst also saying that transwomen ARE women, so why the distinction with their own preferences?) is ridiculous. and near all of these people keep their dicks and pursue lesbians