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10-08-2018, 09:43 AM | #1 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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PVV (party for freedom) member Willie Dille has tragically ended her own life after she was raped, assaulted and kidnapped by muslims, a plan orchestrated by her former colleague at PVV Arnoud van Doorn she was well known for her hate towards muslims, she once stated that all muslims should be wiped out with an atomic bomb, so she was very controversial here in our dutch politics, same as PVV leader Geert Wilders Willie Dille was 53 years old, she had 4 kids https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Dille http://www.dagelijksestandaard.nl/20...oord-gepleegd/ i can't say i am shocked about the rape and assault at her from muslims, since she had said many nasty things about them, which might've also triggered anger against her, but she was told to just tell the police and file charges against her abductors/rapists, but she didn't probably out of fear |
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10-08-2018, 09:47 AM | #2 | |||
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That sounds horrendous if it's true but it seems unproven? I can only read the wiki page as I don't speak Dutch
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10-08-2018, 09:50 AM | #3 | |||
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10-08-2018, 09:54 AM | #4 | |||
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I mean is it proven that she was actually kidnapped and raped? The Wiki page says it wasn't
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10-08-2018, 10:28 AM | #5 | |||
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but the things she had said makes it hard to sympathize for her, same what people in UK could think of Corbyn who also is a controversial politician |
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10-08-2018, 10:34 AM | #6 | |||
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Has it been proven that she was kidnapped and raped? But not proven that a rival politician hired the rapists to do it? The articles and wikipedia makes it sound like none of this has been confirmed?
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10-08-2018, 10:25 AM | #7 | |||
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10-08-2018, 09:55 AM | #8 | |||
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Terrible Rape, if true
and her ending her life. |
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10-08-2018, 09:59 AM | #9 | |||
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If it is true, the fact that a rival politician was involved is crazy and I hope they're thoroughly investigating that accusation
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10-08-2018, 10:02 AM | #10 | |||
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That's awful
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10-08-2018, 10:02 AM | #11 | |||
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10-08-2018, 10:04 AM | #12 | |||
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If true this is a very sad story and the person who supposedly instigated her kidnapping should be in jail.
The problem I have with what you said Nicky is you almost seem to imply that because she said horrible things it was expected that she would be abused. The thing is words are words. Putting your hands, or any other body part on someone takes it to a whole different level. No words justify that. Words justify words in return, nothing more.
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10-08-2018, 10:52 AM | #13 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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Theo Van Gogh, who was a highly controversial movie director who had portrayed muslims in a bad way in his movies, got murdered by a muslim who was triggered by those ''racist'' movies so yeah freedom of speech here in my country isn't really a good thing anymore, now these days you gotta be careful what you say sadly i myself am quite respectful for muslims in general |
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10-08-2018, 10:21 AM | #14 | |||
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Wait. Somebody hated muslims so much that somebody else specifically hired muslims to rape her?
Thats just bizzare. This world can be ****ed up on so many levels.
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10-08-2018, 10:29 AM | #15 | |||
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Zumi Zimi Zami
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thanks for the translating Withano, i hope people here will understand it better now they can read it in english
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10-08-2018, 10:36 AM | #16 | |||
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Thanks Withano, I'm on my work PC and no translate option popped up
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10-08-2018, 10:38 AM | #17 | |||
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She feared for her life, then committed suicide.
I hope this is looked into thoroughly as it sounds iffy. |
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10-08-2018, 10:41 AM | #18 | |||
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she thought this ruined her life completely, i really feel so sad for her kids and husband now |
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10-08-2018, 11:10 AM | #19 | |||
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i mean, that's sad, but she did say she wanted muslims wiped out with an atomic bomb... so..
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10-08-2018, 11:12 AM | #20 | |||
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That's sad but? You think what she said merited her being kidnapped and raped? (again I still think the story is a bit far fetched but assuming it is true)
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10-08-2018, 11:13 AM | #21 | |||
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No it doesn't warrant it, but it makes me have less sympathy.
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10-08-2018, 11:19 AM | #22 | |||
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So words make rape less bad, got it
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10-08-2018, 11:35 AM | #23 | |||
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10-08-2018, 12:10 PM | #24 | |||
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Not to play devils advocate.. but you’d surely find the story more sad if the victim was a woman that always showed upmost respect for muslims and was seen by their country as a lovely person
I mean... maybe it shouldnt have been said, but it is unfortunately true.
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10-08-2018, 03:44 PM | #25 | |||
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I mean words are pretty powerful especially when you're in politics. She's not some ignorant troll on social media spewing hate, she's a public figure in politics and if she's saying things like all muslims should be wiped out I'm gonna take her very seriously. I'm not at all justifying what happened to her I wouldn't wish that on anybody but I can't say I hold as much sympathy towards her as would to someone who wasn't calling for a genocide
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