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Old 14-11-2018, 08:18 AM #1
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Default Andrew Neil attacks BBC over Left-wing bias in comedy shows



Andrew Neil has complained that the corporation's comedy output is too left wing.

Neil singled out The Mash Report, BBC Two's purile "satirical late" night show, as
"self satisfied, self adulatory, unchallenged Left-wing propaganda.

It's hardly balance. Could never happen on a politics show.
Except this has become a politics show."

The Now Show on Radio 4 is "contrived ideological commentary"
and Have I Got News For You "is on its last legs", Neil said.

"When it comes to so called comedy the BBC has
long given up on balance, on radio and TV. Nobody
seems to care. And I don't want Right-wing comedy,
whatever that is. I'd just like comedy. Which is in really
short supply. On TV and radio," he tweeted.



He dismissed The Mash Report as a "pathetic imitation" of
The Daily Show in the US, hosted by Jon Stewart, who
"was Left-wing but also intelligent".

In his social media spree, Neil also described Channel 4 News
as "the broadcasting arm of the Guardian"
and railed
against Bobby Gillespie, the Primal Scream singer who
appeared in a recent edition of Neil's show, This Week.



Neil, 69, is regarded by some as the perfect host for
Question Time, but the job is expected to go to a
younger woman.

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Andrew Neil should say that he identifies as a young woman, then not only will he be the best person for the job as Question Time host, but he'll also tick the identity boxes too.
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Andrew Neil should say that he identifies as a young woman, then not only will he be the best person for the job as Question Time host, but he'll also tick the identity boxes too.
Yes, excellent idea Alfie. And next year, he'll probably get Woman of the Year.
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Probably because theres not much funny about mocking lefty ideas like pay equality and peace? Mocking a multi-billion dollar wall that will serve literally no purpose whatsoever or a brexit plan which is doomed to fail is pretty funny though.
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Probably because theres not much funny about mocking lefty ideas like pay equality and peace? Mocking a multi-billion dollar wall that will serve literally no purpose whatsoever or a brexit plan which is doomed to fail is pretty funny though.
Yes how on earth could one think of comedy about the unrealistic ideals of youth or middle aged delusionals who should know better?



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Probably because theres not much funny about mocking lefty ideas like pay equality and peace? Mocking a multi-billion dollar wall that will serve literally no purpose whatsoever or a brexit plan which is doomed to fail is pretty funny though.
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Yes how on earth could one think of comedy about the unrealistic ideals of youth or middle aged delusionals who should know better?
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nah m8te is because most stand-ups doing that shtick are young and or are aiming it squarely at a young, no property, no kids, no investment in society, dont even take bins out once a week audience

They want likes and facing the harsh reality of life wont get you any

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nah m8te is because most stand-ups doing that stick are young and or are aiming it squarely at a young, no property, no kids, no investment in society, dont even take bins out once a week audience

They want likes and facing the harsh reality of life wont get you any
Why even make a thread if you thought you knew the answer?
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lol I came here to post that exact video, I bet no one even bothered to watch it

One of my favourite routines ever
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lol I came here to post that exact video, I bet no one even bothered to watch it

One of my favourite routines ever
I watched it, it was sh!t.
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lol I came here to post that exact video, I bet no one even bothered to watch it

One of my favourite routines ever
I did it was totally unfunny, he is a very poor comedian hence why he is not rated
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I did it was totally unfunny, he is a very poor comedian hence why he is not rated
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What was the gist? I'm not a fan of standup in general (unless it's Lee Mack or Jimmy Carr) so don't wanna sit through five minutes of it...
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There's just nothing funny to say about Trump anymore, all the "good" homes had already been done to death about two years ago. It's just tiresome when all jokes seem to be TRUMP LOL, surely even lefties can see that.

As for me, I've never been particularly left-leaning. Might be because I was raised with two working parents with a "want something? earn it" attitude, I dunno
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There's just nothing funny to say about Trump anymore, all the "good" homes had already been done to death about two years ago. It's just tiresome when all jokes seem to be TRUMP LOL, surely even lefties can see that.

As for me, I've never been particularly left-leaning. Might be because I was raised with two working parents with a "want something? earn it" attitude, I dunno
I think Trump really is an odd one, you can't really satirise him... because he's kinda already a living parody.
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I think Trump really is an odd one, you can't really satirise him... because he's kinda already a living parody.
Well, maybe so. I just wish more comedians would realise that
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You start getting less idealistic and more realistic when you hit 30 I reckon. And all our young people on here are hurtling towards being the "older generation" SO much faster than they all realise. When you suddenly discover that you didn't know as much as you imagined you did ten years before.
Yeah. I see that with my peers. It makes sense when most of our "adulting" is on the backend (post-college) rather than the frontend. We moved out on our own dole when we hit 20. That's very rare in some parts of the US now. It did create a major gulf between us and other people our age. I know too many people a little bit older than us who are still trying to move out. I think I read recently that more people are moving towards multi-generational homes... and so there's homes now being built with secondary kitchens/living room, etc.

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There's just nothing funny to say about Trump anymore, all the "good" homes had already been done to death about two years ago. It's just tiresome when all jokes seem to be TRUMP LOL, surely even lefties can see that.

As for me, I've never been particularly left-leaning. Might be because I was raised with two working parents with a "want something? earn it" attitude, I dunno
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Which current comedians are you thinking of?

Steven Crowder is fairly amusing, and he doesn't make racist jokes.
Yeah, I think the problem with most of the Trump jokes is they are often self-referential. The punch-line is usually an afterthought as they're mainly inside jokes, so the comedians tend to think it is funnier than it really is. The viewer is not necessarily "in" on the joke.

Everyone can relate to being screamed at by people on the internet, for instance. Or accosted with new-fangled buzzwords by total strangers who don't share their view. Or having to "conform" to a silly policy that seems like a blatant conflict...

Crowder is OK, though I think his act is struggling atm after losing some of his main people. Another guy I recommend listening to is Adam Carolla. He's a Libertarian iirc.


Bill Maher is genuinely very funny even if I don't agree with some of his opinions. He will chew out his own left-wing audience sometimes when he thinks they're being stupid. And he welcomes all kinds of folk onto his show.


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Simplistic and silly view of left-leaning if this is the first thing you think of as an example of your right-leaning political views.
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Simplistic and silly view of left-leaning if this is the first thing you think of as an example of your right-leaning political views.
I lean right on practically every issue, but that was just a possibility for part of it.
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I lean right on practically every issue, but that was just a possibility for part of it.
Yes, it was the one thing you highlighted to illustrate your right-leaning views. That was the point of my comment on it.
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I lean right on practically every issue, but that was just a possibility for part of it.
would that include equal rights for homosexuals re. marriage for example?
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