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17-06-2019, 11:12 AM | #1 | |||
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17-06-2019, 11:14 AM | #2 | ||
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So the teachers opinion counts but not the lads ? Wow how arrogant
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17-06-2019, 11:14 AM | #3 | |||
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But there is only 2 genders? We are taught that at school in science lessons. Your either born a male or born a female its up to people if they change sex but still it's two genders?!
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17-06-2019, 11:18 AM | #4 | ||
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17-06-2019, 02:13 PM | #5 | |||
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I honesty think this whole non binary thing has gone too far ,and this teacher is an Idiot desperate to please the "latest trend" . it's the bandwagon of extreme eggshell culture scared to offend !. I can't even call it PC gone mad because it's nonsensical the whole thing |
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17-06-2019, 11:14 AM | #6 | |||
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17-06-2019, 11:17 AM | #7 | |||
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...this is where the whole incident/conversation/context etc would be really helpful...impossible really to comment at all without it tbh...
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17-06-2019, 11:19 AM | #8 | |||
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...I don’t think the tutor is explaining himself very well though ...or has very good control of what was obviously a ‘situation’...
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17-06-2019, 11:20 AM | #9 | |||
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Haven't watched the video yet but yeah, these mobile recorded evidences can be unreliable and without proper context aswell.
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17-06-2019, 11:17 AM | #10 | |||
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When you actually google it, this is what comes up :
either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. "a condition that affects people of both genders" 2 genders are mentioned but then also "The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female." which to me is re enforcing the idea that gender rather than sex is basing itself on stereotypes.
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17-06-2019, 11:25 AM | #11 | ||
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Depends how you define gender. Many people use it to mean sex, in which case he is correct of course.
However the meaning of 'gender' has been used another way recently. In short, means the stereotypes associated with your sex that you follow, along with how you 'feel internally'. There are something like 90 'genders' when really, there should be 7billion as its nowt but personality and personal preferences so every single person has a different 'gender' if using the current definition. It seems quite obvious the lad was meaning gender=sex, so yeah, there are only 2. Either way, its ridiculous how some behave when talking about this, and kicking a kid out for giving his view is crap, but not the least bit surprising. That kind of thing happens all the time these days.
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17-06-2019, 11:54 AM | #12 | ||
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If we're coming down to personal opinion, the accurate opinion of someone who is critical of that scale, would be that the sociological concept of gender is flawed or false in its entirety. The statement that there "are only two genders" is false, by definition, and not open to interpretation... there are either a multitude, or it doesn't exist and there are none. There are not "two". Full stop. So there are several issues here. One being that the pupil actually is both A) factually incorrect and B) over-confident in his reasons for being correct... BUT yes, also, the teacher himself is blatantly totally unclear on this and is waving his authority wand because he doesn't actually know how to academically address the issue (by explaining the difference between the scientific / biological definition of sex, the sociological concept of gender, and the differences between the two) because HE doesn't understand it either. So... meh. The kid is incorrect but it's also a piss-poor example of effective teaching, especially because the teacher is clearly on the verge of losing his cool when (from what's in the video) there's no reason to do so, and his approach is actually doing nothing but cementing this belief rather than helping a young mind to engage in some less-rigid thinking. But what can you really expect in a high school teaching environment? Crap working conditions, crap pay, low prospects, little reward. It's not attracting the best and brightest and it won't - ever - until our governments realise that it is the most important thing that we should be spending on. |
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17-06-2019, 11:58 AM | #13 | |||
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17-06-2019, 01:09 PM | #14 | |||
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17-06-2019, 01:14 PM | #15 | ||
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17-06-2019, 01:15 PM | #16 | |||
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So unless people have a masters degree they're never going to understand what gender is?
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17-06-2019, 11:42 AM | #17 | |||
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Of course there are only two genders.
While it is separate from sex, there are still only two. |
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17-06-2019, 11:43 AM | #18 | |||
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the teacher looked like he didn't really believe in what he was saying, just following rules so he didn't lose his job...
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17-06-2019, 12:14 PM | #19 | |||
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he was pretty angry
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17-06-2019, 12:20 PM | #20 | |||
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17-06-2019, 12:30 PM | #21 | ||
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17-06-2019, 12:32 PM | #22 | |||
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also totally agree with your main post explaining the whole semantic issue problemo If the teacher had been more clued up he could have turned it into a great learning experience for the whole class |
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17-06-2019, 01:05 PM | #23 | |||
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17-06-2019, 01:08 PM | #24 | |||
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Did nobody spot the immense irony. "You can't voice your opinions here, we are inclusive"
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17-06-2019, 01:18 PM | #25 | |||
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There are two SEXES, there are lots and lots of genders. Get your facts right!
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