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20-06-2019, 11:10 PM | #1 | |||
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20-06-2019, 11:47 PM | #2 | |||
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She was not meant to be there.
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20-06-2019, 11:49 PM | #3 | |||
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And he was not meant to touch or shove her
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20-06-2019, 11:56 PM | #4 | |||
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20-06-2019, 11:58 PM | #5 | |||
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Well he should have not thought about touching her
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21-06-2019, 01:41 AM | #6 | |||
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21-06-2019, 12:56 AM | #7 | |||
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Why weren't there bouncers or security?
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21-06-2019, 01:44 AM | #8 | |||
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21-06-2019, 04:39 AM | #9 | ||
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21-06-2019, 04:44 AM | #10 | |||
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...I saw this earlier...his physical handling of her felt quite uncomfortable...and there looked as though there was anger on his face...someone shouldn’t be laying hands on another person in anger or any heightened emotion if they aren’t a personal threat to him...which she wasn’t....
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23-06-2019, 02:34 PM | #11 | |||
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21-06-2019, 01:12 AM | #12 | |||
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That's inappropriate
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21-06-2019, 01:42 AM | #13 | |||
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21-06-2019, 04:54 AM | #14 | ||
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21-06-2019, 05:01 AM | #15 | |||
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Reasonable force eh? I don't think so
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21-06-2019, 05:50 AM | #16 | |||
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Absolutely disgusting. He should be sacked/arrested. No way to touch anybody.
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21-06-2019, 06:22 AM | #17 | |||
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overly aggressive, he has to be toast
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21-06-2019, 06:27 AM | #18 | |||
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it has to be asked .... why was there no security there, that's unbelievable in itself
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21-06-2019, 07:15 AM | #19 | ||
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He is in trouble and should be.
I accept there is a worry now if protesters or others invading a place or function, that they could be armed. However, she didn't fight back and holding someone by the throat is totally threatening and unacceptable. It actually was assault. She shouldn't have been there, however they were able to just walk in. So where was security? He made no attempt to talk to her, he just jumped up aggressively and he grabbed her. She didn't physically respond to him at all. He should face action over this. He actually assaulted her and caught on camera too. Perhaps lock the doors to the rooms they are in for these functions in future, once you know all invited are in said room. He looked angry too. I think he needs to be made to rethink as to a political future at all now. No one else acted as he did. Yes, they were wrong to gatecrash the event but assaulting that woman was way out of line, and in my view assault. |
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21-06-2019, 07:26 AM | #20 | |||
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Like others have said where was security? Its lucky they were not armed. I dont agree the way he is handling her by the throat but someone had to remove her, he should have done it another way.
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21-06-2019, 07:32 AM | #21 | |||
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21-06-2019, 08:22 AM | #22 | ||
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However, I'm as sure as I can be, had this been a Labour MP doing this, this thread would be filled with viiolent left wing Labour thug or thugs comments. This was a predominantly Conservative and business function. It was a Conservative MP, representing his Party there as an invited guest. Who chose to explode the way he did. You say he'll be dealt with however. I hope the law does that. As I'd have concerns his Party will. To his credit he has referred himself to the Cabinet office. The Party should at the very least suspend him. As I said, I hope the law acts on this. He is a Foreign office Minister too. This brings his Party by his actions into disrepute. Be interesting to hear the 2 leadership's candidates decision as to their thoughts on this. As I say however, and it stuns me he is getting defended, not by you admittedly on here,off here however. Anyone condoning assault like this, well they are more possibly the real thugs. In my view anyway. In panic, it's true people can react out of character but he was the only one who took it to a whole new extreme. I repeat however, had this been a Labour dominated function and a Labour MP manhandled and assaulted a woman in this way. I'd bet most of all I have, the media, the Conservative Party and on here would have the language likely blue. Against the whole Party,Corbyn,the MPs and Labour members, not just the offending MP. As a firm Labour member, I get offensively lumped in on here to all the digs of supposed left wing thuggery and how we are revolutionaries and undesirable beings,. It's tiresome. If a Labour MP had done this, my view would be the exact same as now. This man should be prosecuted. He should be sacked as a Minister. Really he maybe shouldn't be in Parliament at all. If he can act like this in the glare of publicity, I'd be really concerned how he'd react in a more private setting. I see nothing at all to support as to his action in any shape or form whatsoever. The Conservative Party do have to act too. He's one of their Ministers after all. |
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21-06-2019, 08:26 AM | #23 | |||
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You cannot associate the actions of one person with that of an entire party, that's just plain silly. However, those in public life, and members of a political party have to be held responsible for their actions as they are representatives of that party. If this act goes unpunished then it is being condoned
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21-06-2019, 07:34 AM | #24 | |||
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Nothing wrong with that imo..seen far worse on the club doors over the years..and with the current passion for hurling stuff at people he made the correct decision.
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21-06-2019, 07:52 AM | #25 | |||
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the poor lady looked quite scared how he grabbed her and shoved her against that pillar
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