[LeatherTrumpet]

As usual with 'ghost' stories its All about the person telling. Its to make them more important in a group, to give them attention and allure.. A very human need.

Andy clocked the beardy and exposed him as a fraud

Brilliant.

Andy FTW

[ConnieLingus]

It always amazes me when I see people taking this supernatural **** seriously...except when it's those on BB doing it. They are usually exactly the type of thiickards who think ghosts exist.

Well done to Andy for calling him out, but he blotted his copybook by apologising later. Why did he have to be so weak?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

It always amazes me when I see people taking this supernatural **** seriously...except when it's those on BB doing it. They are usually exactly the type of thiickards who think ghosts exist.

Well done to Andy for calling him out, but he blotted his copybook by apologising later. Why did he have to be so weak?

He was but he is just a nice guy

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He was but he is just a nice guy

Yes. I believe he is, and it's looking like he is far too intelligent o have a conversation in there.

Nice to see him quoting Richard Dawkins too...although it really did fall on stoney ground.

[Oliver_W]

I've done a Ouija board before, round a mate's house. The light bulb broke and the front door opened at the same time while we were doing it.

Not saying the three things were connected, but it happened

[Amy Jade]

He was just rude for no reason.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I've done a Ouija board before, round a mate's house. The light bulb broke and the front door opened at the same time while we were doing it.

Not saying the three things were connected, but it happened

At a guess, I'm going to say the three things were not connected.

[*mazedsalv**]

I'm not a believer at all, but I've felt stuff before. Infact (you all wont believe me), but my workplace used to be an assylum (burnt down in the 70s and was rebuilt as a hotel wedding venue), and there is a place upstairs where the cleaning cupboard is.

That room which is on the 4th floor (where hardly anyone goes) used to be where they prepared dead bodies. I went up there once and went to get some cleaning products and no word of a lie, you know when someone comes really close to your ear when they whisper (hot breath urghh!), well, something literally pulled my earlobe and whispered, all I got was "get the".

I ran so quick and haven't been up there since! No one believed me until one of my friends had a small shelf pushed onto her (a shelf which was against the wall).

So, I'm a big "yeah kind of", so the Sam story to me is a "meh, maybe, but probably not".

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

He was just rude for no reason.

No he wasn't.

He only stated a couple of facts, and asked a couple of questions that anyone with half A brain cell would ask a nutter who claimed a clock or washing machine was moving for no good reason.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

I'm not a believer at all, but I've felt stuff before. Infact (you all wont believe me), but my workplace used to be an assylum (burnt down in the 70s and was rebuilt as a hotel wedding venue), and there is a place upstairs where the cleaning cupboard is.

That room which is on the 4th floor (where hardly anyone goes) used to be where they prepared dead bodies. I went up there once and went to get some cleaning products and no word of a lie, you know when someone comes really close to your ear when they whisper (hot breath urghh!), well, something literally pulled my earlobe and whispered, all I got was "get the".

I ran so quick and haven't been up there since! No one believed me until one of my friends had a small shelf pushed onto her (a shelf which was against the wall).

So, I'm a big "yeah kind of", so the Sam story to me is a "meh, maybe, but probably not".

Just say no. It's not clever to take drugs.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

Just say no. It's not clever to take drugs.

I don't mind if people don't believe me. I have no reason to lie. I don't need to impress anyone

If someone doesn't agree I just say "OK, fair". Less than 5% of people encounter stuff like that, so basically no-one. I get people don't get agree because I was the same up until a couple of years ago.

One time I dreamt I was getting burnt with a bbq fork and the number 45 was being carved into my back... i woke up, as i left the house, there was a van outside with a 45 after the logo right outside my door.... Coincidence obviously.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

Just say no. It's not clever to take drugs.

Everyone wonders. I think it is very human to ask yourself if there is more than just what we see to life/things. BB-wise, it may help to make that person seem much more relatable to have such conversations. On the other hand, it could be highly polarizing depending on the belief. The twins and their belief that they are aliens is one such example of that polarity...

I'm not one to tell ghost stories myself but I am heavily spiritual. Don't talk that much about it tbf because I don't really care what other people think. I just wouldn't completely write off each other's stories so easily. Everyone wonders. I also think that house also tends to force some silly conversations out of people's mouths... what else are you going to do when you are sat there with nothing else better to do than talk about nothing?

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Less than 5% of people encounter stuff like that, so basically no-one. I get people don't get agree because I was the same up until a couple of years ago.

In Britain alone, that would be about 3 million people, so can hardly be described as "basically no one".

Spookily weird that no one believes it...except that the nutters never have any evidence.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

In Britain alone, that would be about 3 million people, so can hardly be described as "basically no one".

Spookily weird that no one believes it...except that the nutters never have any evidence.

5% of the world population. I don't know how small here.

We don't have evidence of a lot of things but people still believe them. I don't have evidence, just my eyes, that's enough for me. Don't care enough to get evidence to convince people because I'm blase about the whole thing.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by Maru

Everyone wonders. I think it is very human to ask yourself if there is more than just what we see to life/things. BB-wise, it may help to make that person seem much more relatable to have such conversations. On the other hand, it could be highly polarizing depending on the belief. The twins and their belief that they are aliens is one such example of that polarity...

I'm not one to tell ghost stories myself but I am heavily spiritual. Don't talk that much about it tbf because I don't really care what other people think. I just wouldn't completely write off each other's stories so easily. Everyone wonders. I also think that house also tends to force some silly conversations out of people's mouths... what else are you going to do when you are sat there with nothing else better to do than talk about nothing?

People who "wonder" usually have a need for reassurance that it doesn't all end when they die, or they don't understand science...or both.

Either way, until evidence of the supernatural is proved, religion and, superstition can be filed under man made delusion.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

We don't have evidence of a lot of things but people still believe them. I don't have evidence, just my eyes, that's enough for me. .

That kind of ignorance of science is what allows the religious nutters to spread their "word".

Try reading Lawrence Krauss or some other eminent scientists, and then you may think differently.

[TT350]

Well, if he was wise he would have kept his mouth shut. Andy that is.

I've learned in life that, wanting to expose liars and frauds isn't always the best course of action. Especially in a microcosm like the BB house.

You have to accommodate for all kinds of people in life. From all backgrounds and so on. You don't always have to call people to some kind of justice if you find out they're telling porky pies. Just let it go. Makes them feel good and removes the burden of the feeling of having to shame and expose them.

I don't like to argue or cause friction overy little things and Andy has done just that.

I'm going to have to say, I really didn't see the need for him to call him out.

Besides..... Things do go bump in the night.

And not just Marco and Laura's uglies.

[Maru]

It really does expose Andy's personality as well.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by TT350

Well, if he was wise he would have kept his mouth shut. Andy that is.

I've learned in life that, wanting to expose liars and frauds isn't always the best course of action. Especially in a microcosm like the BB house.

You have to accommodate for all kinds of people in life. From all backgrounds and so on. You don't always have to call people to some kind of justice if you find out they're telling porky pies. Just let it go. Makes them feel good and removes the burden of the feeling of having to shame and expose them.

I don't like to argue or cause friction overy little things and Andy has done just that.

I'm going to have to say, I really didn't see the need for him to call him out.

Besides..... Things do go bump in the night.

And not just Marco and Laura's uglies.

Behave. He wasn't trying to "expose liars and frauds".

He was probably trying to encourage a discussion on why the things precious Sam was talking about don't have any evidence in reality (something most of the housemates seem detached from).

He had already alluded to BB several times that he would like a discussion on something more substantial than the usual b ollocks that the dullards talk about.

[hot2go]

Sam has done nothing and said nothing of any significance since he arrived ... If not for his little troll enemy he would have had no story line at all... Tonight he was exagerating fantasies cause his reality is so dull... If I was Andy I too would have found it annoying

[TT350]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

That kind of ignorance of science is what allows the religious nutters to spread their "word".

Try reading Lawrence Krauss or some other eminent scientists, and then you may think differently.

Well, I was brought up religious. I didn't swallow the pill though.

However I do have a spiritual side.

Science is fantastic and interesting. I love learning about the mechanics of everything in and around us. But I think it's quite possible that our interpretation and understanding of things is very superficial at best. Reality may be what we're allowed to see and understand. And that's our reality. Especially as we're left to understand and discover things on our own as a species. Giving us a sense of achievement and discovery and reinforcing the notion that our reality IS reality.

Like I say, maybe were allowed to discover things. Like a child discovering something for the first time is so convinced he's pioneering and feels sure he's made a discovery that no one else could have.

Bit like The Matrix.

That's just a thought though. Not an opinion.

I don't think I believe in God or God's. I sort of do believe in creation over evolution. There's no reason a long extinct race of aliens couldn't have sent out probes with the seed of everything we call life to terraform planets. Maybe they're still there.

Or maybe they're HERE! Lol.

Anyway I'll take off my tinfoil hat now lol.

[ConnieLingus]

Originally Posted by TT350

Well, I was brought up religious. I didn't swallow the pill though.

However I do have a spiritual side.

Science is fantastic and interesting. I love learning about the mechanics of everything in and around us. But I think it's quite possible that our interpretation and understanding of things is very superficial at best. Reality may be what we're allowed to see and understand. And that's our reality. Especially as we're left to understand and discover things on our own as a species. Giving us a sense of achievement and discovery and reinforcing the notion that our reality IS reality.

Like I say, maybe were allowed to discover things. Like a child discovering something for the first time is so convinced he's pioneering and feels sure he's made a discovery that no one else could have.

Bit like The Matrix.

That's just a thought though. Not an opinion.

I don't think I believe in God or God's. I sort of do believe in creation over evolution. There's no reason a long extinct race of aliens couldn't have sent out probes with the seed of everything we call life to terraform planets. Maybe they're still there.

Or maybe they're HERE! Lol.

Anyway I'll take off my tinfoil hat now lol.

Despite some hesitation, I was at least finding your post reasonably original and interesting until you stated your belief in creation over evolution.

Your credibility just disappeared at that point.

[Shaun]

I'm open to all this spiritual nonsense talk but I think everyone that's turning against Andy because of this is being incredibly over-sensitive.

[TT350]

Originally Posted by ConnieLingus

Despite some hesitation, I was at least finding your post reasonably original and interesting until you stated your belief in creation over evolution.

Your credibility just disappeared at that point.

Lol. I feel like I've just stared a new job and broke it to my new colleagues that I don't like football.

*tumbleweeds*

All entitled to our own thoughts and opinions though.

Good that we evolved in that respect

[Maru]

Originally Posted by TT350

Well, I was brought up religious. I didn't swallow the pill though.

However I do have a spiritual side.

Science is fantastic and interesting. I love learning about the mechanics of everything in and around us. But I think it's quite possible that our interpretation and understanding of things is very superficial at best. Reality may be what we're allowed to see and understand. And that's our reality. Especially as we're left to understand and discover things on our own as a species. Giving us a sense of achievement and discovery and reinforcing the notion that our reality IS reality.

Like I say, maybe were allowed to discover things. Like a child discovering something for the first time is so convinced he's pioneering and feels sure he's made a discovery that no one else could have.

Bit like The Matrix.

That's just a thought though. Not an opinion.

I don't think I believe in God or God's. I sort of do believe in creation over evolution. There's no reason a long extinct race of aliens couldn't have sent out probes with the seed of everything we call life to terraform planets. Maybe they're still there.

Or maybe they're HERE! Lol.

Anyway I'll take off my tinfoil hat now lol.

I'm not religious either. I'm more of an open mind and have come to my beliefs in a different manner. I am heavy into Astronomy and Geology subjects and read texts as a hobby so I can talk just as much about either subject as the other.

Hey, people have differing views and POV's with the subject of the supernatural, but that is what makes it so interesting.

People can detest religion all people want (I'm not religious either), but there are people going so far as to murder and die for their beliefs. It might be good to sit down, listen and try to really understand the people behind those beliefs. It doesn't mean a person has to drink the Koolaid.

I am a Astronomy buff myself. I like Geology as well and studying things like the formation of the Earth. I can pretty much read on non-fiction subjects all day long, especially languages and the design of things. I am self-taught and have taught myself a language and several computer languages in my spare time. My point is there doesn't necessarily have to be a competition between the two, but maybe view it as a continuous learning experience. Science is fairly well proven in it's area but there's no reason to be completely closed to other contexts of what we see and physically experience.

Relax, we are here for the long haul. Education is a life-long thing so there is no reason to close off to other people's POV. It may not change your belief system and really who cares if it does. The point is you may learn something about your fellow man and that is why it doesn't really bother me.

In the context of BB, I didn't hear Sam's ghost story but I wouldn't put it past most people to be putting on for the cameras...

It's a shame if Andy writes off people so easily. I actually want to like him. I would like to hear more on what he thinks about things because he's supposedly studied, but he seems to like to open his mouth too much in the DR . I don't know that he is really the listening type.