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25-10-2017, 10:11 AM | #51 | |||
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At present, some benefits can be paid, in certain cases, in respect of more than one spouse, but the allowances that may be paid in respect of additional spouses are lower than those which generally apply to single claimants. Universal Credit (UC) is to replace all existing means-tested benefits and tax credits for families of working age but is not expected to be fully introduced until 2022. The 2010 Government decided that the UC rules will not recognise additional partners in polygamous relationships. This could potentially result in some polygamous households receiving more under UC than under the current benefit and tax credit system." Source: House of Commons Library Briefing Paper No 05051 21 06 2017 |
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25-10-2017, 10:14 AM | #52 | ||
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Nature (species) and nurture (here, society) are inseparable to the extent that this statement is almost meaningless... take a baby and lock it in a room deprived of all human contact (don't ACTUALLY do this, to be clear ) and in 10 years you will have a creature that doesn't resemble a human (or any other natural living creature) in any way, shape or form and will almost certainly have actual structural braindamage. Our behaviour as a species is informed by socialization from birth to the extent that you simply can't separate out society and species. They're interlocked. There is no such thing as a human being (or any other mammal) that operates purely on instinct.
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25-10-2017, 10:17 AM | #53 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:19 AM | #54 | ||
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Funny side story: I told a coworker of mine about this scheme as her husband is retired, but she filled in the form the wrong way round, and transferred part of HER tax allowance to HIM, meaning she got taxed more rather than less . And didn't notice for months, then got really mad at me. Ahh good times good times... |
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25-10-2017, 10:20 AM | #55 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:24 AM | #56 | |||
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ETA I think TS already covered that though, you can't compare a Lion to a human
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25-10-2017, 10:25 AM | #57 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:27 AM | #58 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:31 AM | #59 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:34 AM | #60 | ||
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I'm not saying that you're WRONG that thousands of years of society have influenced how we conduct ourselves in terms of relationships now... I'm saying it doesn't really matter; social evolution is as relevant as biological evolution to our desires and behaviors. Again I think you're trying too hard to separate nurture from nature, and also putting too heavy an emphasis on the importance of nature / instinct in a species that has the level of higher brain function that humans do. OK maybe not everyone chooses to USE all of that function; but nonetheless, we do have it . |
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25-10-2017, 10:36 AM | #61 | ||
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I was only going to have one real wife, but I had the printer ready to go with a bunch of forged birth and marriage certificates. Bye bye, fake tax wives... I hardly knew ye...
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25-10-2017, 10:37 AM | #62 | |||
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I don't think love has caused monogamy at all, but it is difficult to argue against, I'll give it that much.
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25-10-2017, 10:37 AM | #63 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:42 AM | #64 | |||
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one is really all men should be expected to put up with any more is just cruel |
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25-10-2017, 10:44 AM | #65 | |||
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Yeah, I suppose it throws every evolutionary theory out the window, wouldnt even compare the human emotion of love to any animal that mate for life, personally...
but then I guess as a conclusion, I'm discussing this with people who were brought to up in a monogamous society, where they, by societal rules would only look for one single person to have the feeling of love with, and then look no further. The only way I can really prove my point now is by falling in love with two people or more (which I still wouldn't do, the idea of one person is already tiring). Which I guess brings us nicely back to the OP!
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25-10-2017, 10:45 AM | #66 | ||
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THAT presents a whole set of other problems (horrendous overpopulation, no equilibrium with habitat, eventually the inevitable exhaustion of the planet) but we're going way off track there... |
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25-10-2017, 10:46 AM | #67 | |||
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25-10-2017, 10:46 AM | #68 | |||
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Ah no I edited that bit after you quoted haha.
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25-10-2017, 10:48 AM | #69 | ||
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Love can be a one sided affair, or love out of convenience.
Years ago a bride to be on a hen night wanted to sleep with me wich is a weird situation. I wish I only ever had one ever after love, falling in love a watching I fail leaves you with regret. |
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I would suggest to you that polyGAMY and polyAMORY are not the same thing, and that a monogamous person can love multiple other humans without it being in any way sexually motivated. |
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