[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Indeed, male prisons are notoriously dangerous, massively so in America

You don't say.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You don't say.

Ok?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Indeed, male prisons are notoriously dangerous, massively so in America

i wouldn't say womens prisons were any safer

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i wouldn't say womens prisons were any safer

I would

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i wouldn't say womens prisons were any safer

They definitely are. Hence prison governors and such warning about men saying they are women simply to get put in the safer place. Rather than actually having sex dysphoria

[Marsh.]

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Yep agree with both your points

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Yes because overcrowding isn't an issue for prisons..

Are you having a
bubble?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Indeed. The current solution is just ridiculous and very dangerous. Putting a male rapist in a female prison ffs, and noone could predict how it would end, seemingly, or didn't care

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes because overcrowding isn't an issue for prisons..

Are you having a
bubble?

I don't seem to recall saying it wasn't.

Are you having a crackle?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Prisons need to be segregated by sex otherwise you're putting women at risk so imo transwomen shouldn't be put in womens prisons unless they've had the surgery(and vice versa but it's obviously a bigger issue here for women than men)

Yep 100%.I mean what did they think was going to happen?

Any idiot can see this is dangerous

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I agree, but the problem is, it would also make them a main target in a male prison, perhaps it is just best to keep the separated from other prisoners altogether

Although I imagine it could cause a ****storm, when it comes to prisons, separating trans people from men and women may be the safest option for them.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbh, this person was jailed for rape to begin with so that should've raised a red flag from the start.

Having male, female and trans wings seems the only logical solution.

Didn't even notice this, wtf were they thinking?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dia.

I agree, but the problem is, it would also make them a main target in a male prison, perhaps it is just best to keep the separated from other prisoners altogether

The problem then though is that it would be (rightly) considered cruel and unusual punishment; isolation is a form of torture. It would literally be better to just kill people than to sentence them to several years imprisonment in what would essentially be solitary confinement... people are permanently scarred mentally by a few months of it.

It starts to get very complicated very quickly.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The problem then though is that it would be (rightly) considered cruel and unusual punishment; isolation is a form of torture. It would literally be better to just kill people than to sentence them to several years imprisonment in what would essentially be solitary confinement... people are permanently scarred mentally by a few months of it.

It starts to get very complicated very quickly.

Why would it be solitary confinement?

They have separated wings for specific purposes?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why would it be solitary confinement?

They have separated wings for specific purposes?

Well it assumes that there will be multiple transgender inmates in each prison in order not to have at least the possibility of isolation?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well it assumes that there will be multiple transgender inmates in each prison in order not to have at least the possibility of isolation?

Then that should be sorted.

But the entire system is in need of a bloody overhaul, it's a shambles.