[Niamh.]

I don't think the Doctor was actually fired from anywhere despite the title, looks like he was just not chosen for a job working with the public sector or something?

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't think the Doctor was actually fired from anywhere despite the title, looks like he was just not chosen for a job working with the public sector or something?

ok makes sense glad he wasn't fired he didn't deserve that

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ethan, I'm glad you came in, I wanted your opinion on this.
.
Do you think a doctor should be fired for this?

The doc's job is to make you well and treat you, and if he's doing that adequately, isn't that enough? I, as a hetero born woman, have dealt with male and female doctors who were ****ing obnoxious, but did their job.

He wasn't fired. Just wasn't selected for a new position.

[Gstar]

Reprimanded yes, fired no

[Scarlett.]

To be honest, the NHS need to start training Doctors on this sort of thing, from what I've read doing research they can sometimes find themselves at a loss when dealing with trans patients, and it's not necessarily the docs fault, they just don't seem to be getting trained on how to deal with trans patients despite the ever increasing number.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

To be honest, the NHS need to start training Doctors on this sort of thing, from what I've read doing research they can sometimes find themselves at a loss when dealing with trans patients, and it's not necessarily the docs fault, they just don't seem to be getting trained on how to deal with trans patients despite the ever increasing number.

They are Dia.

This was a Rare older GP
who will not back down.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by arista

They are Dia.

This was a Rare older GP
who will not back down.

I guess they are, but there are a lot out there who feel woefully unequipped to deal with it, I do empathise with them despite being on the opposite side of the desk.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

hey! ive actually dealt with this previously even though ive had my name changed officially for years one doctor even refused to treat me because of this (he did end up being fired bc someone found out about it) i don't think they should be fired necessarily but i don't think he should get away with it i wouldn't personally try to get a doctor fired for calling me the wrong name but others are a lot less tolerant i guess. i think overall no he shouldn't have been fired and im sure his career is over because of this yet as a doctor he needs to be able to educate himself as [patients are gonna have weirder **** happen to them. idk tho i understand both viewpoints

That's interesting... thanks, good to hear your point of view.

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Dia.

To be honest, the NHS need to start training Doctors on this sort of thing, from what I've read doing research they can sometimes find themselves at a loss when dealing with trans patients, and it's not necessarily the docs fault, they just don't seem to be getting trained on how to deal with trans patients despite the ever increasing number.

this

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Whether he's right or wrong the patients wishes are the number one priority, if he isn't willing to put his personal beliefs aside he clearly shouldn't be working with the public.

What rubbish. No society in it’s right mind is prepared to lose much needed competent doctors because some patients don’t like the fact some doctors may not want to refer to them by the gender of their choosing.

[Shaun]

Can someone edit the thread title so another illiterate ass doesn't come in here thinking someone's actually been sacked?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Can someone edit the thread title so another illiterate ass doesn't come in here thinking someone's actually been sacked?

So a doctor who spent many years training for his profession has lost his job in the NHS and has been stripped of his title so that he can't practice in any other country and you just don't care? Is that what you're saying? This man spent hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pounds becoming a doctor and now all he can do is sit in a mud shack in the South American desert peddling peyote to gap-year tourists, and you're like "so what" because he misgendered some transexual libtard PC gone mad lady wannabe who is only wanting to be female to access ladies toilets and molest people. That's it, isn't it. I bet you don't even like Brexit. Brexit would never have fired this doctor.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why is it that male to female transgender people are always the ones up the front making it a ****ing crusade ?And yet we hear hardly anything from female to male trans people.

Is it because these people still think that they should be front and centre with their words being listened to... like when they were a man?

There seems to be more trans women , and it's usually the ones having these arguments and accusing people of prejudice .

The world has gone crazy , now you're not allowed to say you WOULDN'T date a trans person as you get labeled a bigot or transphobic .

By that dumb logic then people who have a preference for tall blondes are also prejudice .

[lime]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

There seems to be more trans women , and it's usually the ones having these arguments and accusing people of prejudice .

The world has gone crazy , now you're not allowed to say you WOULDN'T date a trans person as you get labeled a bigot or transphobic .

By that dumb logic then people who have a preference for tall blondes are also prejudice .

Listen I'm a straight mother of 4...the world has not gone crazy lad.....You tlk about having a blonde as as a preferance....blonde is a hair colour ...not a sexual preferance....

BTW Who out of interesd who told you .."you wouldn't be allowed to say you WOULDN'Tdate a trans person"...


Jez talk about dumb logic

[lime]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Surely you should address the patient by the name on their notes.

Difficult situation to make a comment on, the doctor would be examining you on your birth given gender as there are obvious differences and health issues for each sex.
On the other hand if he doesn't understand the nature of being transgender, or unwilling to accept it due to his religious beliefs then he is in the wrong job.

Back on Topic I agree with Smudgie when she talks about the birth of a child....A doctor will base his opinion on genilltalia not the patient in question...which is right BTW

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by lime

Listen I'm a straight mother of 4...the world has not gone crazy lad.....You tlk about having a blonde as as a preferance....blonde is a hair colour ...not a sexual preferance....

BTW Who out of interesd who told you .."you wouldn't be allowed to say you WOULDN'Tdate a trans person"...


Jez talk about dumb logic

PC has gone over the top and crazy - many, many people feel that way. Not your opinion, fine, but it is the opinion of others.

Men who now see themselves as women - men used to advantage and priiledge previously living as men - now demanding it as women. Men looking after themselves whether they consider themselves men or women.

Trouble is issues such as men with penis’s using womens’ toilets and the problems that causes for many natural-born women, and the associated risks, means little to them and demonstrates their self-obsessed selfish ‘male’ attitudes.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

PC has gone over the top and crazy - many, many people feel that way. Not your opinion, fine, but it is the opinion of others.

Men who now see themselves as women - men used to advantage and priiledge previously living as men - now demanding it as women. Men looking after themselves whether they consider themselves men or women.

Trouble is issues such as men with penis’s using womens’ toilets and the problems that causes for many natural-born women, and the associated risks, means little to them and demonstrates their self-obsessed selfish ‘male’ attitudes.

Brillo I think me and you both are similiar of age



But when you go to a club nowaday's ....

They share toilet's...It's just what happen's....nothing to do with brown people or Muslim'....
Ask any youngster here ...they willl tell you in many Club's male and female's share toilet's



Heck I lived in Holland 91/92 and that's how we lived

I am interested of what you consider "A natural born woman"??

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by lime

Brillo I think me and you both are similiar of age



But when you go to a club nowaday's ....

They share toilet's...It's just what happen's....nothing to do with brown people or Muslim'....
Ask any youngster here ...they willl tell you in many Club's male and female's share toilet's



Heck I lived in Holland 91/92 and that's how we lived

I am interested of what you consider "A natural born woman"??

I don’t know what you mean by ‘share toilets’. If it means the whole toilet/changing room area where previously women were not subjected to the risk of predatory men claiming to be a woman coming and going at will, then I can only say i’m glad I don’t bother with them any more.

My tastes on a good night out have changed and I would strongly object if, for instance, I was in a restaurant and found men, who were clearly men, hanging around the female bathrooms. Each to their own but you can’t just ignore the many women who would object in favour of the rights of this group of men/women. Natural born women, self-explanatory I would have thought, have rights too and that includes the right to privacy and safety. Safety should always be everyone’s concern.

When the rights of a group that represent 50% of the country and the world population are allowed to be undermined in favour of a minority group who shout the loudest you have true discrimination. When women, those unfortunate enough to be born women, are not a minority group but are still discriminated against you have real issues.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by lime

Listen I'm a straight mother of 4...the world has not gone crazy lad.....You tlk about having a blonde as as a preferance....blonde is a hair colour ...not a sexual preferance....

BTW Who out of interesd who told you .."you wouldn't be allowed to say you WOULDN'Tdate a trans person"...


Jez talk about dumb logic

"Lad" ? I'm a woman

And the world has gone mad . I used "tall blondes " as an example as people have different preference , there is some people more attracted and sexualky attracted to tall blondes . just like some prefer petite /slim rather than bigger people.

My point is it's a preference ,are those people discriminating against others NO .

Unless they have hate or unhealthy attitudes ,then there's no issues.

I don't know where you've been. Even in celebrity Big brother back in January , India played the transphobic card just because Ginuwine was honest and said he WOULDN'T date a trans person .

[Withano]

“Well I haven’t gone mad, so it must be the entire world”

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

When the rights of a group that represent 50% of the country and the world population are allowed to be undermined in favour of a minority group who shout the loudest you have true discrimination. When women, those unfortunate enough to be born women, are not a minority group but are still discriminated against you have real issues.

This is literally a thread about the complete opposite thing im not convinced that youve completely absorbed the information.

[ethanjames]

trans people getting rights?!11??? that's pc gone mad!!!1111!!!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

trans people getting rights?!11??? that's pc gone mad!!!1111!!!

Their rights should not undermine those of women born women.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

This is literally a thread about the complete opposite thing im not convinced that youve completely absorbed the information.

I know real discrimination when I see it.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I know real discrimination when I see it.

But you literally missed it and started talking about something that has nothing to do with the thread

Again, i’ve got to suggest you havent really absorbed the idea of the thread