[LeatherTrumpet]

i think the mum is to blame here i really do.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

all you seem to do is take one posters comments and then say its all Tibb

again and again like you have some big point to make


are you ok?

idgi

I don't have any point to make about anything; you and I are very alike in that respect.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't have any point to make about anything; you and I are very alike in that respect.

looks like i hit a nerve

[glibberglobber]

Youtube video

This video perfectly describes today's media - what is happening to our education system? Stuff like this that makes the headlines when it's petty! ! There was obviously no malicious intent from this head teacher - he even claimed it wasn't age appropriate for a school "talent show" ...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

looks like i hit a nerve

How so? I agreed with you.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

looks like i hit a nerve

That's your fave hobby here
Pretending to be a free thinker but peddling same old prejudices

[glibberglobber]

Why is this all over the news when there is more important things happening worldwide?? People dying ect ect yet "Teenager in drag banned from school talent show" is more important? No one is being harmed, the child himself even claimed he came to school as drag on a non uniform day yet no one battered an eye lid?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I get that..but still dont see a problem with it as long as you aint being derogatory....its like everyones saying there is something wrong with black faces

..no Parmy it isn’t saying that at all...it’s saying the exact opposite of why would someone who isn’t black, blacken their face ..that in itself is derogatory, it’s a ridicule of someone who is black...if someone wants to pay a tribute by singing a song, then sing the song...the black face isn’t necessary because it doesn’t tribute at all, it ridicules...

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

Why is this all over the news when there is more important things happening worldwide?? People dying ect ect yet "Teenager in drag banned from school talent show" is more important? No one is being harmed, the child himself even claimed he came to school as drag on a non uniform day yet no one battered an eye lid?

it’s not all over the news, it was on This Morning and in the papers

you make it sound as if it’s the first thing Alistair Stewart talks about on the news at 10

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

That's your fave hobby here
Pretending to be a free thinker but peddling same old prejudices

if you have a point to make do so, this is not the place to insult members

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

it’s not all over the news, it was on This Morning and in the papers

you make it sound as if it’s the first thing Alistair Stewart talks about on the news at 10

[LeatherTrumpet]

dont rise to it GG

watch out

[Jamie89]

Drag isn't a sexualised art form in itself, it's just that it's historically been confined to gay bars and clubs because of society being historically homophobic, and pretty much any late night/bar entertainment will contain a sexual element because the audiences are adults. So cause and effect/why is drag generally adult/what happens if drag is taken out of that context... should be given some thought. Drag really is as simple as dressing up as the opposite sex and that's it. As for the content of a drag act it completely depends on that particular act. It's like saying the school shouldn't allow comedy acts because comedy performances in bars at night generally include adult content. I can't see the logic to the argument at all, does seem like it's rooted in ignorance to me. Sorry!

Thing is society is becoming less and less homophobic so what was once pushed out of the mainstream due to homophobia no longer needs to be pushed out and confined to a late night bar environment, and this boy and his family are living examples of that change and it's wonderful to see. We're in sort of a transition period at the moment though and people like this headteacher have a bit of catching up to do I suppose so things like this will crop up, but from the sounds of it there's going to be a lot of positives for the boy that will come from all this so it's not all bad I suppose.

Also like Dezzy said drag isn't just male impersonation of females. Drag kings are a thing, and I see it as mocking sex stereotypes rather than mocking the sexes anyway. And sex stereotypes should be mocked! Again though it completely depends on the act, there's so much variation with drag these days a lot of it wouldn't be classed as mockery at all.

[glibberglobber]

http://www.dudleynews.co.uk/news/163...in-birmingham/

This is even worse.

A TEEN drag queen who was banned from his school's talent show will take to the stage at a popular Birmingham gay bar tonight (Thursday).

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

http://www.dudleynews.co.uk/news/163...in-birmingham/

This is even worse.

"A TEEN drag queen who was banned from his school's talent show will take to the stage at a popular Birmingham gay bar tonight "



like I said the mum is to blame

so sad

[Josy]

Closing this for cleaning

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I disagree tbh, I don't think the act of drag is demeaning. It's not intended to mock women especially considering that women can also be drag queens as well. It's less to do with demeaning women and more to do with becoming someone else for a while and embodying someone larger than life.

Blackface was created to enforce stereotypes and to make black people seem less worthy of being equal.

Already gone into this in admin, but for the members also..I was not actually comparing blackface to drag here. I used to be of the impression that drag was all your pantomie dame types, making crude jokes and taking the piss out of women, with way exaggreated moveents, makeup, ridiculous false tits, such tht are not about creating a character at all and are just about making people laugh AT women..infact even going so far as to actually single out women to take the piss out of who are currently in the bar. There was also a thread a while back where blackface was referred to as womanface. Seemingly with the member also under the impression that drag was only ever the kind you get in backalley pubs that is kind of undeniably sexist.

I now know that drag is much more than just the sexist stuff. And that anyone can do drag, where before it was only ever men, and sexist ones at that that I saw/knew of.

As I used to come at it from that angle myself, I could see how someone else might. Though the seemingly actually defending blackface by using drag I did not mean to make out I was agreeing with I know from reading back that it looked that way now (and the convo may have moved on too,again.. have replied when I got to this quoted post..like I did earlier with the quoted one)